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A long time has passed but further information from the 1911 census shows that the details given by Julie are about 95% certain.

Please, after such an interval, accept my thanks for all the help I have received.

I now have a possible avenue to prceed down in trying to trace my maternal grandfather

Allan

Julie,

I now have the marriage certificate for Mary and John.

I am still not sure if it is my Gran, but the names are fascinating. It may be a coincidence but some of the forenames on the cert are also forenames of the children

Allan

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I'll forgive you, Quinsgran :0))

regards

Allan

Sorry to gatecrash your thread Allan.

GLORIA here is your family.

1911 census.
Andrew Rogers 1868
Ellen Rogers 1880
Andrew Rogers 1908
Charles Rogers 1910.

living Ashton under Lyne
You pay to see the rest of the details

Hi Gloria,

Electoral Rolls werenot produced during thw war years, and see Quinsgran's earlier post on Ist page of this thread regarding women and the vote.

Best of luck with your research

Allan

Help would you look on electoral rolls1917- 1920 Manchester for Andrew Rogers, not sure of his wifes name try Hellen Rogers. my father Charles was one of there children. He was born in Stalybridge, 10 thomas st , 21 december 1909. I am trying to find my dads side of the family.

Gwyn

I'm not sure where they would have been baptised or even if they were! I'm assuming so as they both had Church Weddings.

I do know my mother's School, but as my grandmother never married Mr Rooke, and my mother did not change her name from Connor to Rooke until 1939 then I am making the quantum leap that by 1939 both Mr Connor and Mr Rooke may have died

Many thanks for your help, you have certainly given me some leads to pursue

Regards

Allan

What about baptisms, ...Was Mr ROOKE named there, when your mother and her brother were baptised,...or perhaps he was recorded as a parent on their school admission log?

If we could 'kill off' Mr CONNOR, perhaps we would find Mr ROOKE arrives on the scene.
There MUST be record of him somewhere, but think I've exhausted my ideas at this time of night.

Gwyn

Thanks Gwyn,

My grandmother was living with us at the time of her death, so the informant would have been my mother.

The witnesses at my Mother's wedding were her full brother, and her half sister.

I believe that religion played a part in the origins of the family split as th eldest brother J. Connor claimed my g/mother's body (Well he was next of kin) but contrary to my g/mothers wishes had her buried at Moston Cemetery in Manchester saying 'once a Catholic, always a Catholic'

Whatever happened, the brothers and sisters of both my grandmothers unions kept in touch and did the usual visiting etc so that we as the respective children didn't notice anything out of the ordinary.

Regards

Allan

One would think that if the 2 children wanted to be ROOKE, then their father must have been around, or at least be known to them?

When your grandmother died, was he mentioned, as informant perhaps, or was he witness at any of the children's marriages?
Was he mentioned in Grandmother's Will.

If you know where your grandmother lived in later years, the electoral lists could be searched to see if he lived there too.

Sorry Gwyn...still early morning in West Oz!

I have just reread your post. My Grandfather was not named on the marriage Certificate. I have the original amongst my documents.

Regards

Allan

Gwyn, I know nothing of Mr Connor, but I do have a cousin in the UK who may be able to shed some light on him as the cousin is from the connor side of the family.

Both my mother and her brother reverted to the surname Rooke, my mother when she married in 1939. I'm not sure when her brother did. He enlisted in the Navy during WW11. But certainly when he married in the early1950's he was married as Rooke

Regards

Allan

What do you know of Mr CONNOR?
Your mother was born in the war years, so perhaps he was away from home and your grandmother met your grandfather then.
Who did your mother name as her father when she married?

Gwyn

Thanks all

It also rules my gran out, but I have her name...it's my grandfather I am trying to trace with only the surname to go on

regards

Allan

There were no electoral rolls taken 1916,1917.

The important 1918 Act recognising the part that men and women played in WW1abolished the property qualifications gave the vote to men at 21 and women at 30,that right being dependent on 6 months residence or occupation of business premises worth 10 pound a year.

The women had to be householders or wives of householders or to have been to university
From 15 Oct 1918-1926
the electoral registers were compiled twice a year .

Well that rules my lot out

just wondering if there were actually electoral rolls taken during the war years??


I know they weren't done during WW2 ........ adn just have a feeling that I read somewhere that they also were not done for some years in WW1




sylvia

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nudging up

Allan

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