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Has anyone noticed, when a request goes up for a search of the 1911 census, that when they are informed it is free to search, they rarely answer on the thread.

So, what is expected? You pay for their search for them?

Gail

Thanks Janet, I'll check my PM.
Kind regards

Mary

Mary - the Irish 1911 census is free. You get free images too!

Here is the link

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

I have sent Mary a PM
Janet

Can I access Irish records on 1911, I have loads of credits but, I can't find out where the Irish counties, any help please.

Mary

I never intended to insult anyone on here. I was talking in general about how we are getting charged alot.. Ancestry did the same thing when i renewed my subscription. I had to pay more for less.

And I am fully aware the 1911 census having far more info than all other census reports especially how many children they had and lost..

Nobody needed to take what I said personally.

I am the worst for getting over excited of finding new rellies.

Sylvie

You're all doing sums based on the CURRENT 1000 limit. The email received by Amokavid says they are "reviewing this limit" (note, reviewing the limit, not number of credits per image/transcription).
As the current limit is 1000 and earlier censuses are at a rate of 3 units per image rather than 30 for 1911, to keep the current ratio they would need to set the limit to around 10,000 (!!!) I tend to think that somewhere inbetween those two figures is more likely. Either way, it should mean a better deal than currently.

From what I am reading it is up to 1000 credits per month so if a 6 month sub then 6000 credits. Also works out at say 12 pence per credit? So not such bad value for money.

Now, if you start doing lookups for anyone that asks on the boards then you will run out very quickly. So, until it comes as a package with FMP or Ancestry, I will not be looking for others.

Gail

Jacqui

I calculate that using the present credit system 1000 credits gives 33 images or 100 transcripts.

Have I got this right?

Anyway, hopefully, we should get more for our money than this.

Janet

Thanks, Joan

I looks as though it won't be as bad as I first thought if they are reviewing the credit situation.

Now I have to save up for a sub. I've got a small 'Family History' fund but there are four places to put every penny!

Janet

The 1000 limit would allow you to look at 200 images on a 6 month subscription, which seems reasonable for individual researchers.

Unfortunately its the look ups for others that will be limited which is probably why the limit is there in the first place.

I am with AuntySherlock on this one. Would pay double what they are already asking for census if we had them in Australia.

I am also looking forward to the release of the 1911 with a subscription price, so will be signing up for my OH family who came to OZ in the 1950's. Then hopefully can sort out some Certificates I am not sure of.

Gail

I got an answer from the chap who started all this!

He quoted the T&C's but did admit there may be changes as the cost of each image (30 credits) is far higher than is charged for the earlier censuses.

I assume he's referring to FMP's credits.

I will be asking the FMP team for some clarity on this.

Thanks for all replies

Janet

Just praise your authorities for being able to offer you any sort of census information. We out here in the colonies have nothing which equals your census records. We are restricted very severely to what BDM we can research, have a limited access to electoral roll information, and only in some states. All our census records were destroyed after the data the government wanted was extracted. Well that's what us citizens have been told is the practice so far.

Once our ancestors sailed from merry old England, family history research became quite difficult and very, very expensive.

I am quite miffed that most of mine left your wintry shores before 1910 which means the 1911 census is of not much use to me at all!!!

Hello Joan

I, too, have bought several sets of credits, when I could afford to, to search the 1911 census. I so dearly wanted to see my grandparents and my much loved aunt as a baby!

I don't begrudge the money at all, as I have a nice file of print outs to gloat over but I was surprised to read we may be limited with searches with a subscription. I am missing a granny! She is not with her parents and although she married in my own town a few months later I cannot find her in 1911. A few others are 'missing people' too so I do hope we are not restricted too much in our searches when the sub is available in October.

Sorry, Sylvie, I can't agree with your opinion on this occasion, though I believe we are all entitled to say what we think on this board. This silly person (me) will probably fork out for a six month sub. Oh, but what fun I shall have searching during the long winter evenings....

Best regards

Janet

Sorry to say but if people are stupid enough to pay for this then they will get away with it.

I stupidly paid the once just out of curiosity and realised what little you get for your money.

I know it's exciting to find out info you've been waiting for but if everybody held back we wouldnt get so ripped off.

Sylvie

Stephen, I cannot see the current fair usage levels being transposed directly in to the upcoming 1911 set up for the reasons you state. The census (esp. the 1911 one) is a totally diferent animal to the other documents featured.
I would expect to see either the number of units per view/transcription to fall or, more likely, the threshold to be raised to a more practical level.

I agree with all that others have said - the figures generally available are for use as a guide to see if it's worth your while subscribing (a bit like being able to tell if it's better to have your phone on PAYG or a monthly sub, except FMP has done the maths for you!!).

However, I would expect that when the subs to start up the small print will contain a "Fair Usage Policy", whereby people who use an excessive amount (say, professional genealogists) may have to pay more or something. This is a standard clause in this sort of set up and infact, if you look at their existing T&Cs, there is just such a clause in there already, which specifies what the CURRENT limit is:

QUOTE
6. Fair Usage Policy for Subscribers
6.1 To ensure a high quality service for all customers, we enforce a “Fair Usage Policy” for Users with a Subscription whereby we place a cap on use of the Services. We have set the current use limit at an average of no more than 1000 Credits per month over a rolling three month period.
6.2 We may revise our Fair Usage Policy from time to time and will advise you of any changes made.
6.3 If you exceed the Fair Usage Policy limits, We reserve the right to invoice you retrospectively for all Credits used at the rate of 12 pence per Credit and to suspend or terminate your use of the Services
UNQUOTE

Like i say Janet

I think maybe the originator of the quote was getting confused with the value for money translation regards PAYG and Subs equivalent!


Tracey x

Tracey and Joan

I have not managed to find any notice of 'limitations' either. I am still waiting to hear back from the original poster and I shall be interested to hear what he says.

Janet

I have now read the press release on FMP and i think indeed the subs service is going to be an open one, i think people are merely getting themselves confused when they refer to the PAYG equivalent in cost?

There is no mention of the limited service or max downloads...

Tracey x