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Please help with Birth of Dorothy ???

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Trac

Trac Report 6 Oct 2009 06:15

Hi i am realy lost with this one so here we go please be paitent
Dorothy or Lillian cave born 1899.1900 1901
In the 1901 cencus she is living with her parents Charles William Cave
Henrietta Cave Nee Blishen
In the 1911 cencus Dorothy 13 is living with Charles father
Brother Robert Leonard 5
Brother William George 15
Sister Annie 13
It dose say her name is Lillian
The Address was 35 Willow Grove Rd
Plaistow West Ham
Her Mother Henrietta do not know where she was
Her sister Elsie was living with her Fathers sister Marthe Louisa Roberts at 35 Kinghton Rd Forest gate E West Ham
In the 1911 cencus she is 13 yo
What is the best way to narrow down her birth to obtain a certificate.
I have all of the others but not hers.
I have ordered most already is there a way to check all Lillian or Dorothys born around that time In the 1901 cencus she was Dorothy when she came to Australia she was Aunty Doll or Dolly
In the 1911 cencus she is Lillian ?????
I do know from a birth certificate she had a baby boy on the 13.07.1924 birth was not registerd untill july 1925 baby had no name. He went on to be named Robert Lenard Moore Birth 13.07.1924
Now i am confused thankyou for any help at all Tracie

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1901 for reference:

1901 England Census
about Dorothy Cave
Name: Dorothy Cave
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles W
Mother's Name: Hatty
Gender: Female
Where born: West Hampater, London, England

Civil parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Stepney
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End, Old Town, Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 179
Household Members: Name Age
Charles W Cave 43
Hatty Cave 30
Ellie Cave 7
William Cave 5
Annie Cave 3
Dorothy Cave 1

Looks like she was born Hampstead on the image.

Rose

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Where does it say she is born in 1911?

Rose

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Is this not it?

Births Jun 1899
Cave Lilian Hampstead 1a 637

Rose

Trac

Trac Report 6 Oct 2009 06:29

Hi it says she was born in Kilburn London
thankyou from Tracie

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William and Annie's births are in Hampstead also.

irths Mar 1896
Cave William George Hampstead 1a 638

Births Mar 1898
Cave Annie Hampstead 1a 642

Rose

Trac

Trac Report 6 Oct 2009 06:31

I have tried that one parents wrong names.
Thankyou

Trac

Trac Report 6 Oct 2009 06:34

Hello could she have been addoped maybe
Tracie

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What were the parent's names on this one?

Births Jun 1899
Cave Lilian Hampstead 1a 637

Rose

Trac

Trac Report 6 Oct 2009 06:47

William Cave and Cave
thankyou from Tracie

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"William Cave and Cave"?

Rose

Trac

Trac Report 6 Oct 2009 06:51

Yes on the order it said fathers name not charles but william
mothers name not henrietta but cave Thankyou from Tracie

Trac

Trac Report 6 Oct 2009 06:54

Hi thankyou for all your trouble but maybe i should order a couple that i have already tried with out the parents names as checking points do you think that would help Tar from tracie

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I feel sure this must be it:

Births Jun 1899
Cave Lilian Hampstead 1a 637

and there's no one on the census in 1901 for that birth.

Perhaps William was going by his middle name.

Is there an address on the cert?

Rose

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London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Dorothy Lilian Cave
Name: Dorothy Lilian Cave
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 4 Feb 1900
Father's Name: William Cave
Mother's Name: Violet Bessie Cave
Parish: Saint Matthew, Willesden
Borough: Brent
County: Middlesex
Rose

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Address 174 Villiers Rd
William is a bricklayer and the birth is 24th ??? 1899

Rose

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Marriages Sep 1895
Cave William Hendon 3a 342
Jackman Violet Bessie Hendon 3a 342

Rose

Trac

Trac Report 6 Oct 2009 07:03

I am soo gratefull for you help i feel like i am going foward again will tell you how i get on with this one again i will order it a different way no parents names Regard from Tracie

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1901 England Census
about Dorothy Lilian Cave
Name: Dorothy Lilian Cave
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Violet Bessie
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England
Civil parish: Willesden
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Hendon
Sub-registration district: Willesden
ED, institution, or vessel: 68
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 247
Household Members:
Name Age
William Cave 29
Violet Bessie Cave 31
Wm Henry Cave 4
Hilda Bessie Cave 2
Dorothy Lilian Cave 1

Rose

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I think you've been tracking the wrong family.

Rose