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nudge for the daytime helpers.

Hope someone with Irish or Military knowledge can help Plonker.

Still Looking ?

forgot
how can i find if there are any brothers and sisters of Nicholas
also how do i find James wifes name
thanx

sorry it took so long
marriage cert - rowley regis
5th april 1847 Nicholas age 21 batchelor address,The Knowle.father James Powell.Soldier
Elizabeth Sheldon 28 spinster The Knowle father Thomas Sheldon. miner.
The above now changes DOBs .
No more info on ireland connection.
Both James & Nicholas are listed as from Ireland (no idea where)
Any Help much appreciated

Sorry we have 'overloaded' you Plonker, but you are very welcome !

Come back to this thread when you have the cert and we can make sure it all fits together.

Dea x

INFORMATION OVERLOAD
hiya
back to find all this info
cant believe how kind people are on this site
it puts my faith back in humankind
I am applying for marriage cert on monday . i think thats my next step.will keep you informed.
thanx again folks

Death of Nicholas Powell Registered September Quarter 1885..Pontefract. 9C 59.

hi on brsgenealogy there is one nicholas powell born ireland (all brsgenealogy is ireland) but to early for it to be your one ..lots of james powells .a pity you have no info on him ..if you had his death date you could work it out from that ..dont give up it took me two years to find my ggrandad in ireland ..now i also have found his father ..as i said earlier as more records come on line with brs your chance of locating him will increase ..i put a message once on this thread asking when certian counties would come online ..a very helpful lady answered me but i have deleated thread now and forgotton her name ..maybe if she sees this she will put a reply again ..re copies of old newspapers ..you have to search at local library yourself as they are on microfilch ..if you have a deffinate date they will search that for you (that means date of death ).near me they will only search a week not a year .voulenteers do it .keep digging regards keith.

Well plenty here for Plonker to pick up on . He might still be asleep as he sent me a message this morning at 2.30am !! You clever people! If anyone is coming back to this is there any sign of Nicholas' father James Powell c 1790 born Ireland , according to Mick's tree. Not sure if the family came over or just Nicholas. I sent Mick a pm last night suggesting he may be from Dublin ,simply to do with ease of access to the ferries .Anyone suggest who to contact in Ireland who could help Mick. Dublin archives? National library ? I did read something about a fire in 1920 wiping out a lot of records ??
I think I have missed this in the thread but still don't know what source he has used to establish the DOBs etc.for the ancestors furthest back in time.
I await more developments with interest !!
Vanessa

If Elizabeth was in the Workhouse, it may be worth checking to see if the poor relief records have survived as they often give lots of information.

Still nothing is helping with the Irish connection but I believe this is 'your man' on 1841:

1841 England Census
about Nicholas Powel
Name: Nicholas Powel
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Wakefield
Hundred: Agbrigg (Lower Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Wakefield
Sub-registration district: Stanley
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Norton 20
Nicholas Powel 15 Coal miner


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1271; Book: 7; Civil Parish: Wakefield; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 2; Folio: 31; Page: 15; Line: 8; GSU roll: 464241.

Dea x

Can't find Nicholas as yet on 1851 but this is Elizabeth with her parents, strangely listed as Sheldon.
I think this is probably a mistake as that marriage which was posted for 1847 looks good and Francis was registered as Powell

1851 England Census
about Elizabeth Sheldon
Name: Elizabeth Sheldon
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Francis
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Dudley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address:.............. Paradise .


Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Dudley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1m
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 155
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Sheldon 66 Coal Miner
Ann Sheldon 63
Elizabeth Sheldon 29 dau.
Francis Sheldon 3 grandson

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2032; Folio: 375; Page: 44; GSU roll: 87439.

.........................

Births Mar 1848 (>99%) (includes Oldbury)
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POWELL Francis W Bromwich 18 579

Dea x

This could be Nicholas on 1861 - working away from home?

1861 England Census
about Nicholas Powell
Name: Nicholas Powell
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Clay Lane
Ecclesiastical parish: Claycross
Town: Clay Cross
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England


Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub-registration district: Ashover
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Concannon 36
Mary Concannon 30
Thomas Concannon 5
Margaret Concannon 3
John Concannon 11 Mo
John Coutins 46
William Jackson 31
Martin Keating 45
Nicholas Powell 33 ....mar. Coal miner

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2525; Folio: 88; Page: 3; GSU roll: 542984.

Source Information:

........

I wonder is this is Elizabeth + children in the workhouse? - John is the correct age and pob buut I haven't found Francis yet !

1861 England Census
about Elizabeth Powell
Name: Elizabeth Powell
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Female
Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England



Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich North East
ED, institution, or vessel: West Bromwich Union Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age


Elizabeth Powell 46 Domestic Servant b Dudley, Worcs
John Powell 10 scholar b Oldbury, Worcs.
Ann Powell 2 scholar (bless!! - at school already and only 2 !) - b Oldbury, Worcs.

** Elizabeth is classed as 'inmate' -(I have deleted the 2-page long list of the other inmates !)



Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2031; Folio: 107; Page: 9; GSU roll: 542906

Dea x

this is probably Nichlolas' son..living same place...

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Thomas POWELL Head M Male 45 Tunstall, Stafford, England Coal Miner
Mary POWELL Wife M Female 40 Tunstall, Stafford, England
Mary A. POWELL Daur U Female 18 Tunstall, Stafford, England
Thomas POWELL Son Male 13 Tunstall, Stafford, England Scholar
Martin POWELL Son Male 7 Tunstall, Stafford, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling The Square
Census Place Whitwood, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342108
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4591 / 87
Page Number 15

For ref:

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Nicholas POWELL Head M Male 64 Ireland Coal Miner
Elizabeth POWELL Wife M Female 72 Dudley, Stafford, England
Thomas MATHERS Boarder M Male 57 Dublin, Ireland Coal Miner


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Source Information:
Dwelling The Square
Census Place Whitwood, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342108
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4591 / 87
Page Number 16

maybe a different age but i think its the same family
i think ages were a guessing game back then.
cheers

different age

1871

Name: Nicholas Powell
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: Whitwood
Ecclesiastical parish: Whitwood
Town: Whitwood
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Pontefract
Sub-registration district: Castleford
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 216
Household Members: Name Age
Nicholas Powell 46
Elizabeth Powell 55
Frances Powell 22
John Powell 20




June x

start off with getting the marriage certificate as it should have his father's occupation on it, may give a clue as to where they came from e.g Bristish Army!

sorry cant help you but love the name Plonker lol

thanx keith
good idea will give it a try
can u search news papers online ,as i dont live in the area?
cheers