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Barbara

Barbara Report 17 Oct 2009 19:58

On 1861 census her mother aged should read 30

1851
Name: Elizabeth Seriviner
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Hadleigh, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Hadleigh
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Cosford
Sub-registration district: Lavenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 108
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Seriviner 56 Beer Seller
Sarah Seriviner 32 Belchamp Walter Essex
Thomas Seriviner 31 Newport Pagnell Bucks
Elizabeth Seriviner 20 Hadleigh
Edward Seriviner 12 Hadleigh
Josiah Fenn 63 Lodger
Charlotte Fenn 60
John Clarke 15
John Fenn 15

Talie

Talie Report 17 Oct 2009 19:41

:o Looks like she could be the first illigitimate ancestor in my family!

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 17 Oct 2009 19:35

Christening of Jane?......looks as if she may have been illegitimate

JANE SCRIVENER Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
17 APR 1857 Hadleigh, Suffolk, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Mother: ELIZABETH SCRIVENER Family

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Barbara

Barbara Report 17 Oct 2009 19:30

Births Mar 1857 (>99%)
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Scrivener Jane Cosford 4a 438

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 17 Oct 2009 19:25

This I think is Jane in the 1861 census. Looking at the actual census image the surname is 'Scrivener'. Her mother's age is hard to read so might not be as transcribed. It says her mother is unmarried

Name: Jane Scrwend
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Hadleigh, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Hadleigh
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image

Registration district: Cosford
Sub-registration district: Hadleigh
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 170
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Scrwend 50 b Hadleigh occ Dressmaker
Jane Scrwend 4

SharoninGreece

SharoninGreece Report 17 Oct 2009 19:25

Talia,

James fathers first name is not mentioned, only his profession Tailor,

Sharon

Talie

Talie Report 17 Oct 2009 19:18

Wasn't the work house quite a bad place for someone to end up? Or am I thinking to far back..? On the marriage between her and thomas, was her father stated?

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 17 Oct 2009 19:14

Looks as if Jane was in a Workhouse in the 1871 census
Name: Jane Scrivener
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation:
Gender: Female
Where born: Hadleigh, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Semer
Town: Semer
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Cosford
Sub-registration district: Hadleigh
ED, institution, or vessel: Cosford Union Workhouse
Household schedule number: 1

Also listed with her was Elizabeth Scrivener aged 8 ....perhaps her sister?

Barbara

Barbara Report 17 Oct 2009 19:11

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1895 (>99%)
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Collins Robert Rettle Romford 4a 448

Talie

Talie Report 17 Oct 2009 19:09

Thanks guys, I really appreciate your help :)
Is it possible anyone could email me the marriage of Thomas & Jane? I'd like to have that printed off :)

Thanks ! x

Barbara

Barbara Report 17 Oct 2009 19:06

1841
Name: Robert Collins
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Martlesham
Hundred: Carlford
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Woodbridge
Sub-registration district: Colneis
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Collins 25
Mary Collins 25
Mary Collins 1

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 17 Oct 2009 19:01

To finish off the censuses for Robert here he is in the 1841 census

Name: Robert Collins
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Martlesham
Hundred: Carlford
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

View image

Registration district: Woodbridge
Sub-registration district: Colneis
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Collins 25
Mary Collins 25
Mary Collins 1


Talie

Talie Report 17 Oct 2009 19:00

Rattle!
Now that could be somthing. In the same Grave as Thomas and jane is a Robert Rattle Collins who from the age I assume is a son, could of perhaps of had his mothers maiden name as his sons middle name..

Barbara

Barbara Report 17 Oct 2009 18:57

A possible for Thomas's parents
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1837 (>99%)
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COLLINS Robert Ipswich 12 665

RATTLE Mary Ann Ipswich 12 665

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 17 Oct 2009 18:52

Robert Collins in 1851 census

Name: Robt Collins
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Anne
Gender: Male
Where born: Falkenham, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Bucklesham
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View image

Registration district: Woodbridge
Sub-registration district: Carlford
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 52
Household Members:
Name Age
Robt Collins 35
Mary Anne Collins 34 b Great Bealings Suffolk
Mary Anne Collins 10 b Martlesham Suffolk
Noah Collins 8
Ephraim Collins 6
Waller Collins 3
Robt Collins 3
Anne Collins 1

Talie

Talie Report 17 Oct 2009 18:46

Very interesting stuff!
I'm taking note :)

Think I might of just found where Thomas is burried, score!

Barbara

Barbara Report 17 Oct 2009 18:45

1871

Name: Thomas Collins
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Bucklesham, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Bucklesham
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Woodbridge
Sub-registration district: Colneis
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 65
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Collins 55
Mary A Collins 54
Noah Collins 26
Thomas Collins 12
William Collins 10
Esther Collins 6

Barbara

Barbara Report 17 Oct 2009 18:43

1881 census Thomas

Name: Thomas Collins
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Bucklesham, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Barking
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address: East St Arthurs Cottages
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Basket Maker

Registration district: Romford
Sub-registration district: Barking Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Cannon 49
Ellen Cannon 50
Ellen Gentry 12
Thomas Collins 22
Joseph Perry 18


SharoninGreece

SharoninGreece Report 17 Oct 2009 18:41

Possibly Roberts marriage


Name: Robert Collins
Year of Registration: 1859
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Hartismere
County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a
Page: 789
Robert Collins 1859 Hartismere Suffolk
Mary Ann Fisk 1859 Hartismere Suffolk

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 17 Oct 2009 18:40

1861 census?

Name: Thomas Collins
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Bucklesham, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Bucklesham
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image

Registration district: Woodbridge
Sub-registration district: Colneis
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 49
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Collins 45
Mary Collins 44
Noah Collins 18
Ephraim Collins 17
Walter Collins 15
Ann Collins 11
Abigail Collins 9
Lucy Collins 7
Caleb Collins 5
>>Thomas Collins 2
William Collins 11 Mo

All children apart from Noah born Bucklesham