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Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 4,475 Send Message	Janice	Report	20 Oct 2009 20:50
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 4,475 Send Message	The 1894 marriage to Thomas fits in with what it says on the census about being married for 17 years. A birth cert for one of the children would confirm it.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 5,758 Send Message	lancashireAnn	Report	20 Oct 2009 20:22
	Hi Elaine have you confirmed now that George's father is Thomas not Herbert
	Researching: Liverpool (Cartwright, Chambers, Miller), Todmorden (Sutcliffe, Mallison), Abergavenny (Watkins, Prosser)
Member Since: October 2009 Posts: 3 Send Message	Elaine	Report	20 Oct 2009 19:56
Member Since: October 2009 Posts: 3 Send Message	Hi Janice, thanks for message, I appreciate your time + help, this info is great, I am going to try and get marriage cert to find out thomas father, my great great grandad. I will let you know how I get on. Thanks again.
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 4,475 Send Message	Janice	Report	20 Oct 2009 19:40
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 4,475 Send Message	Hi Elaine, Had a look at the full 1911 image at Kew for you. It's as Ozibird has posted plus address: 29 Sackmills Street, Salford. 5 rooms in house. Married 17 years - husband not at home on census night. Thomas is a hawker(fruit) with own account John is an errand boy Walter is a scholar 8 children born alive and 8 still living. Janice
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 5,758 Send Message	lancashireAnn	Report	20 Oct 2009 13:20
	Ozi I wasn't ignoring the marriage you put up for Salford. Just trying to show that care needed to be taken as there are 2 Thomas & Elizabeth marriages, your one in Salford & one in Adlington to Elizabeth Watkins. Both with a son named Peter. Elaine says Thomas was a gardener & farmer which matches the one in Adlington, as does the place of birth of Ireland, but she is not sure if George's father is Thomas or Herbert.
	Researching: Liverpool (Cartwright, Chambers, Miller), Todmorden (Sutcliffe, Mallison), Abergavenny (Watkins, Prosser)
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 5,758 Send Message	lancashireAnn	Report	20 Oct 2009 13:16
	From Elaine my grandparents were george kennedy + olive rennie married in july 1938 in salford manchester from this Elaine it sounds like you have the details of the marriage. What was George's father's name on the certificate please/
	Researching: Liverpool (Cartwright, Chambers, Miller), Todmorden (Sutcliffe, Mallison), Abergavenny (Watkins, Prosser)
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,301 Send Message	Ozibird	Report	19 Oct 2009 23:50
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,301 Send Message	Elaine, you have to pay to look at 1911 census, but I think it would be worthwhile. I found her by putting the marriage date into the search. I'm trying to find them in 1901 with no luck. Perhaps they went over to Ireland to show off the grandkids!! Ozi
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,301 Send Message	Ozibird	Report	19 Oct 2009 23:10
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,301 Send Message	Is everyone ignoring this marriage and the 1911 findings? Marriages Mar 1894 CUMMINS Elizabeth Manchester 8d 388 Kennedy Thomas Manchester 8d 388 Although I agree that certs must be bought. What's found on the census is only a starting place. Elaine has answered by pm. I guess she's done that to everyone.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 5,758 Send Message	lancashireAnn	Report	19 Oct 2009 23:03
	as you are not sure of if he is Thomas or herbert it would be worth getting the marriage certificate of your granparents to prove his name and occupation
	Researching: Liverpool (Cartwright, Chambers, Miller), Todmorden (Sutcliffe, Mallison), Abergavenny (Watkins, Prosser)
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 5,758 Send Message	lancashireAnn	Report	19 Oct 2009 22:55
	the 1901 census of Sylvia's does not fit this is the birth of Peter (I think as everything fits) Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1900 KENNEDY Peter Adlington mmn = WATKINS and the corresponding marriage Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1899 KENNEDY Thomas WATKINS Elizabeth Chorley Register Office or Registrar Attended
	Researching: Liverpool (Cartwright, Chambers, Miller), Todmorden (Sutcliffe, Mallison), Abergavenny (Watkins, Prosser)
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,301 Send Message	Ozibird	Report	19 Oct 2009 22:46
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,301 Send Message	?????????????? Be careful, for especially in the elder boys, there are other births about the same time. However, these fit the dates best. Births Dec 1894 Kennedy Peter Manchester 8d 238 Births Jun 1900 Kennedy John Manchester 8d 301 Births Dec 1897 Kennedy Thomas Manchester 8d 301 Births Mar 1902 Kennedy Walter Manchester 8d 277 Births Mar 1903 Kennedy Francis Manchester 8d 200 Births Dec 1903 Kennedy Francis Manchester 8d 255 Births Sep 1906 Kennedy Stephen Manchester 8d 270 Births Dec 1907 KENNEDY Albert Manchester 8d 281 No Herbert in Manchester, but ... Births Jun 1909 KENNEDY Herbert Salford 8d 107 Births Jun 1910 KENNEDY Herbert Salford 8d 100
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,301 Send Message	Ozibird	Report	19 Oct 2009 22:27
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,301 Send Message	With George, this would be 9 boys. Doesn't seem to be an elder Thomas. Eldest son fits in with marriage date. 1911 KENNEDY ELIZABETH F 1875 36 Salford Lancashire KENNEDY PETER M 1895 16 Salford Lancashire KENNEDY THOMAS M 1897 14 Salford Lancashire KENNEDY JOHN M 1900 11 Salford Lancashire KENNEDY WALTER M 1902 9 Salford Lancashire KENNEDY FRANCIS M 1904 7 Salford Lancashire KENNEDY STEPHEN M 1907 4 Salford Lancashire KENNEDY ALBERT M 1908 3 Salford Lancashire KENNEDY HERBERT M 1910 1 Salford Lancashire
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	19 Oct 2009 22:12
	I wonder if this is Elizabeth in 1891??? Rhyll is in Denbighshire, Wales 1891 Census Name: Elizabeth Cummings Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Rhyll, Wales Civil parish: Sutton Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas Town: St Helens County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: St Helens James Goodban 47 Gardener Esther Goodban 35 Thomas Goodban 16 Albert Goodban 15 Arthur Goodban 14 John Goodban 10 Charles Goodban 8 Elizabeth Goodban 7 Annie Goodban 5 George Goodban 5 John W Henshaw 9 Stepson Elizabeth Goodban 11 Stepdaughter Ralph Henshaw 4 Stepson Ada Goodban 10/12 Elizabeth Cummings 18 General Servant Address:- 89 Norman Road sylvia
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 4,475 Send Message	Janice	Report	19 Oct 2009 22:12
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 4,475 Send Message	Do you know the names of the other boys? I can look at the 1911 tomorrow at Kew and see if I can find the family.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	19 Oct 2009 22:04
	Is this him in 1901??? 1901 Census Name: Thomas Kennedy Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil parish: Adlington Ecclesiastical parish: Adlington St Paul with Chirstchurch Town: Adlington County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Chorley Sub-registration district: Rivington Thomas Kennedy 32 Farmer and Gardener Elizabeth Kennedy 28 b.ca 1873, Silla, Breconshire, Wales Peter Kennedy 10 months b.ca 1900, Adlington, Lancashire Address:- 180 Chorley Road he cannot have been born in 1889 as you put in your header message, but 1869 is a possible. I'm just surprised there is only one child showing on the 1901 Census sylvia
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,301 Send Message	Ozibird	Report	19 Oct 2009 22:03
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,301 Send Message	This him? Births Sep 1912 KENNEDY George E Cummings Salford 8d 188 ??? Births Sep 1913 Kennedy Elizabeth Cummings Salford 8d 230 Kennedy Vincent Cummings Salford 8d 230 Deaths Sep 1913 Kennedy Elizabeth 0 Salford 8d 145 Kennedy Vincent 0 Salford 8d 149
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 4,475 Send Message	Janice	Report	19 Oct 2009 21:56
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 4,475 Send Message	Message from Elaine Hi Janice thanks for your help earlier today, regarding my relatives Thomas Kennedy + Elizabeth Cummings. I don't have much info. He was a gardener, farmer and pet shop owner; his place of birth was Ireland and place of death Salford, Manchester. His marriage was January 1894. I am not a hundred percent sure he is a Thomas, he could be Herbert? He had 9 children, all boys: george was the youngest and married olive rennie - my grand parents. I hope this can help you a bit more, thanks again I really appreciated it. Elaine
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 4,475 Send Message	Janice	Report	19 Oct 2009 12:36
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 4,475 Send Message	Can you tell us who your grandparents were on this side of the family, and when/where they were born so that we can tie the family into a census.
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 970 Send Message	Barbara	Report	19 Oct 2009 12:24
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 970 Send Message	Hi Elaine Have you got the correct birth date for Thomas this is the only marriage for a Thomas Kennedy and a Elizabeth Cumming on BMD Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1894 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CUMMINS Elizabeth Manchester 8d 388 Kennedy Thomas Manchester 8d 388
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 4,475 Send Message	Janice	Report	19 Oct 2009 12:16
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 4,475 Send Message	Can't find a marriage for those names. Where have they come from? Do you have a birth cert for your grandparent?

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