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It would seem that you are still looking for him registered under Kemp.

It is on here that he was Reg under ROWE as he was born before the marriage of his parents...

Births Jun 1873
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Rowe William John J E. Stonehouse 5b 296

his fathers name was william as far as i know i have tried to find his birth cert have been in touch with southport and they cant find william J J kemp so ass you see i am really stuck please if you could help i would appreciate anyones help

this is my great grandmother hetty kemp
i dont know how to look up all the details about Registration district: East Stonehouse
Sub-registration district: East Stonehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 123
Household Members: Name Age
Hetty Kemp 26
Frederick J Kemp 4
Charlie S Kemp 1

my great grandfather william John James kemp was born on 12th March in east stonehouse march1873 according to the RM records he retired in 1925

Also had a pm from Elizabeth

If Elizabeth is confused and so am I

Did William get a divorce from Hetty - unlikely - so why did Hetty marry again especially if William retired from Royal Marines in 1925

I have also recd a PM from Elizabeth and I have explained that if she has any queries or comments she should reply using the purple reply button.

Pm from Elizabeth...so I am assuming it relates to this thread.

the j j in his name could be james john as that is what in on his R M paper

From Elizabeth

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So now we know you have read this thread Elizabeth you can see that Choccy has solved the matter of the birth.
He was born before his mother was married to Mr Kemp and was registered under his mothers maiden name or previous married name of Rowe.


To reply on here just as we do do please use the big purple"reply"button at the top of the post.
The submit button will be under the message you write.

PM sent to Elizabeth. Definitely a 'eureka' moment! Let's hope Elizabeth returns...

Looks like you cracked it, Choccy. Well done.

I bet you had a great Eureka moment.

Ozi

will send a PM, please or offend

Seems to be the ticket Choccy.
Just a shame Elizabeth never comes back to her posts to see it.

Must remember to Kemp away from Elizabeths Kemps myself ,just like GB.

Bummer!!

But I'm going to stick this one in anyway.

1871 England Census
Name: Sarah Kemp
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Benjamin T
Gender: Female
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England
Civil parish: St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Plymouth
Sub-registration district: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Household schedule number: 189
Household Members:
Name Age
Benjamin T Kemp 30 - fruiterer
Sarah Kemp 27
Amy Kemp 3
Ernest Kemp 1

Choccy good spot but it does not appear that Elizabeth comes back to her threads. At least 3 or 4 others on the same subject

What do you think?


Births Jun 1873 (>99%)
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Rowe William John J E. Stonehouse 5b 296





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Marriages Sep 1875 (>99%)
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CRISP William E.Stonehouse 5b 524
********************KEMP John E. Stonehouse 5b 524
********************Rowe Caroline East Stonehouse 5b 524
Yabsley Margaret E. Stonehouse 5b 524





1881 England Census
Name: James Kemp
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Caroline
Gender: Male
Where born: East Stonehouse, Devon, England

Civil parish: East Stonehouse
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address: 8 Brownlow St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: East Stonehouse
Sub-registration district: East Stonehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Kemp 32
Caroline Kemp 47
**************James Kemp 8
Ann Kemp 1




Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2203; Folio: 76; Page: 59;GSU roll: 1341530.

Gone back and read again some of the duplicate threads and the info does not really add up especially if he lived past 1911

Will give this one a wide berth

From yet another post on this person.
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1175790

Elizabeth 5th September 2009 21:48 Request review
My Great grandfather william John James Kemp was a bugler in the RM joined when he was 16 was still in Royal Marines when he married retired when he reached 50 years old He was married on the 3/11/1895 at the registery office Districk East Stonehouse his wife name is Hetty Mann i would like to know of children he had my grand father was born in 1896 in east stonehouse , and Hetty mann was living in 77 high street east stonehouse At time of marriage the home and william Kemp was in the
The Royal Marines Barracks east stonehouse

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1881 England Census
Name: Willie Kemp
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England
Civil parish: Plymouth St Andrew
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address: 8 Cobourg St
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Plymouth
Sub-registration district: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Kemp 38
Amy Kemp 13
Ernest Kemp 11
Willie Kemp 9
Emily Kemp 7
Ellen Chudley 21

Elizabeth never seems to come back to any of her posts,so this is a waste of everyones time and effort.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1177939
One of a few where the fathers name is never given.

Freewheel is quite correct,without his fathers name and occupation he cant be found on census for sure to try and find his birth.

He may well have lied on his naval records,my g.grandad did,first name and DOB were total fabrications.

This is beginning to look familiar.....................

Elizabeth...................

You haven't told us the father's name - what was it???

1901 I think Hetty is a widow


Wonder if William served in the Boer War