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ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 23 Oct 2009 14:15

I would advise the first thing to do would be to buy his marriage cert to check his father's name and occupation.

His age seems to be consistent after his marriage.

1901 England Census
about William Coulstock
Name: William Coulstock
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lucy
Gender: Male
Where born: Penshurst, Kent, England

Civil parish: Reigate
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Redhill
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England



Registration district: Reigate
Sub-registration district: Reigate
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 90
Household Members: Name Age
William Coulstock 40
Lucy Coulstock 37
Fred Coulstock 10
Annie Coulstock 8
William Coulstock 6
Daisy A Coulstock 4
Elizabeth C Coulstock 3

Christine


Darealjolo

Darealjolo Report 23 Oct 2009 12:41

Thankyou Reginald.

Rallyreg

Rallyreg Report 23 Oct 2009 11:09

Like the other's have said it was not compulsory to register a birth then, but more likley that he was baptised, so try searching the parish records for Chiddingstone, which are held at the Centre for Kentish Studies, Maidstone.
If you cannot get to Maidstone, then contact the Kent Family History Society as they may have some one that can do the search for you

Darealjolo

Darealjolo Report 23 Oct 2009 10:54

I am really confused now. I cant afford to buy all the birth certs to see which is right or not.

I am always confused with censuses, i dont know why, it is really simple i know but for some reason my head never gets the information right.

Thankyou for finding all this information for me.

Joanne

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 22 Oct 2009 23:13

Births Dec 1860
COWLSTOCK William Sevenoaks 2a __
Births Jun 1862
COULSTOCK William Sevenoaks 2a 415
Births Sep 1864
COULSTOCK William Sevenoaks 2a 443

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 22 Oct 2009 22:58

1841 England Census
Name: William Coulstick
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England
Civil parish: Chiddingstone
Hundred: Somerden
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

View image
Registration district: Seven Oaks
Sub-registration district: Penshurst
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Coulstick 30
Mary Coulstick 25
William Coulstick 7
Samuel Coulstick 3
Sarah Coulstick 1


I think you have to be very careful. There seems to be a couple of William Coulstocks born about that time in the Chiddingstone/Penshurst area. Take care you don't get them muddled.

Ozi

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 22 Oct 2009 22:22

?????????? is this him??????????


England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about William Coulstock
Name: William Coulstock
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1834
Christening Date: 13 Apr 1834
Christening Place: Chiddingstone, Kent, England
Father's Name: William Coulstock
Mother's Name: Mary




sylvia

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 22 Oct 2009 14:44

That's the best thing to do and if his father is named as William and his age matches as being born 1860 then I think that is his birth registration that I found mistransribed as Cowlstock.

Christine

Darealjolo

Darealjolo Report 22 Oct 2009 14:32

Hi Christine,

No i dont have the cert, im going to get it now though.

Thankyou again

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 22 Oct 2009 14:17

Hi Joanne, You asked if you have the right William?

I presume that this is your William in 1891

1891 England Census
about William Coulstock
Name: William Coulstock
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lucy
Gender: Male
Where born: Penshwest, Kent, England

Civil parish: Reigate Foreign
Ecclesiastical parish: Redhill St Matthew
Town: Reigate
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England



Registration district: Reigate
Sub-registration district: Reigate
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Coulstock 30
Lucy Coulstock 27
Fred Coulstock 3/12


Do you have his marriage cert naming his father as William?

Marriages Dec 1890 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

<<<Coulstock William Reigate 2a 307
<<FULLER Lucy Reigate 2a 307
Pither Sara Ann Reigate 2a 307
PITHER Sarah Ann Reigate 2a 307
Sadler George Reigate 2a 307



Christine

Darealjolo

Darealjolo Report 22 Oct 2009 10:26

Christine,

Thankyou for your reply with all the information. So i have the right William then?

Im so useless at this lol sorry

Joanne

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 22 Oct 2009 09:48

This looks like your William in 1861



1861 England Census
about William Cowlstoch
Name: William Cowlstoch
Age: 7 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Penshurst, Kent, England

Civil parish: Chiddingstone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Sevenoaks
Sub-registration district: Penshurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 5c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 115
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Huntly 43
Eliza Huntly 42
Henry Huntly 13
Eliza Huntly 11
Mary A Huntly 8
William Huntly 5
Charles Huntly 3
William Cowlstoch 7 Mo



Marriages Mar 1845 (>99%)

Coulstock Eliza Sevenoaks 5 469
Huntley Henry Sevenoaks 5 469

This is probably his birth reg

Births Dec 1860 (>99%)

COWLSTOCK William Sevenoaks 2a __

I have checked the image on ancestry and the page and vol no are
2a 375.

This could be his father in 1861 as he is a widowed, birth year in 1871 is 1835.

1861 England Census
about William Coulstock
Name: William Coulstock
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Chiddingstone, Kent, England

Civil parish: Penshurst
County/Island: Kent
Country: England


Registration district: Sevenoaks
Sub-registration district: Penshurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 50
Household Members: Name Age
William Beale 30
William Coulstock 28
James Seal 20
George Coulstock 16
William Seal 12
Jane Malin 20
Elizabeth Sears 55


He must have remarried to Jane and therefore she wouldn't be the mother of William 1860.

Christine


Darealjolo

Darealjolo Report 22 Oct 2009 07:50

Freewheel,

Do i have the wrong William Coulstock then do you think?

Thankyou all for helping me.

Joanne

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 21 Oct 2009 22:32

GR's pages are not relevant

The ONLY page number which matters is the one on the GRO index.

In this case, one of the births is on Page 415 - the other is on Page 416

And both are too late to refer to a child whose age on the 1871 census is recorded as 10 years.

Darealjolo

Darealjolo Report 21 Oct 2009 22:30

Please dont delete any replies with info on as i have to go now so cant jot down but will be back first thing tomorrow.

Thankyou

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 21 Oct 2009 22:29

1881 just for info

Name: Jane Coulstock
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Step Daughter
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Chiddingstone, Kent, England

Civil parish: Chiddingstone
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address: 50 Hill Hoath
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Sevenoaks
Sub-registration district: Penshurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William G. Devenport 30
Jane Devenport 35
Jane Coulstock 11
Elizabeth Coulstock 8
William H. Devenport 3
Roland G. Devenport

Darealjolo

Darealjolo Report 21 Oct 2009 22:26

Freewheel,

I got John and William on the same page here on Genes reunited in 1862 2a 415 and 2a 416 both in Sevenoaks.

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 21 Oct 2009 22:23

This is on a different page - what makes you think he is William's twin?

Births Jun 1862 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

COULSTOCK John Sevenoaks 2a 416 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
ENGLISH John Sevenoaks 2a 416
HOATH George Sevenoaks 2a 416
LONGLEY John Sevenoaks 2a 416
ROFFEY Alice Matilda Sevenoaks 2a 416
SMITH Eliza Sevenoaks 2a 416
WELLS James Sevenoaks 2a 416
WELLS William Sevenoaks 2a 416

Darealjolo

Darealjolo Report 21 Oct 2009 22:22

Glitterbaby,

I was looking at 1971 census and didnt see this!!

Maybe i have wrong year then but thats how i calculated it.

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 21 Oct 2009 22:20

Any child whose birth was registered in AMJ 1862 would be aged 8 (or 9 if the reg'n was late)in 1871 - NOT 10.