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Did Ada have any brothers and sisters? was Ada the eldest?
Prehaps we could find them in 1911...might lead to their mother.
Nicky
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Hi Folks
Many thanks for your help.
I know that Ada Lily Workmasn , was BORN in Dursley, Glos & MARRIED in Dursley Glos.
Births Dec 1899
Workman Ada Lily Dursley 6a 279
Married in Weslyan Memorial Church, Gloucs.29.03.1919
( this info came, verbally, from Ada's granddaughter ).
I know that Joseph Workman ( born 1874) was her dad & that he was a dentist ( and the son of a Minister).
I was told ( by Ada's grandaughter) that Adas mother was called Mary.
I need to find the marriage between Joseph & Mary...... ( I know that they would have married , and Ada HAS the surname Workman.
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Gillian
You say
"I need to find the marriage between Joseph & Mary...... ( I know that they would have married , and Ada HAS the surname Workman"
With all due respect - you only know what you have been told. You have no proof of the facts if you don't have Ada's birth certificate.
What is Your relationship to Ada please?
Does Ada's Grandaughter have proof that Ada's parents married?
If you know that
Births Dec 1899
Workman Ada Lily Dursley 6a 279
is your Ada's birth then you need to buy the certificate.
Have you found her on the 1911 census? It has been shown that there is another Ada living with different Workman parents but so far there has been no Ada (1899) found either in 1901 or 1911 living with parents Joseph and Mary.
You need to buy that birth certificate to confirm the names of Ada's parents.
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The only Ada L Workman born aroud the correct time in 1901 census is the same one as found in 1911 census
Name: Ada L Workman
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Sydney
Mother's Name: Rebecca
Gender: Female
Where born: Smethwick, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Smethwick
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: 63 Bridge Street
Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Harborne
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 118
Household Members: Name Age
Sydney Workman 29 Engine Importer b. Birmingham
Rebecca Workman 25 b. Birmingham
Arthur E Workman 5
Ada L Workman 2
Alice F Workman 4 months [Actual image is Alice R]
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2821; Folio: 194; Page: 23.
So this looks like the births for those two girls
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Births Dec 1900 (>99%)
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Workman Alice Rebecca King's N. 6c 489
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Births Dec 1898 (>99%)
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Workman Ada Lilian King's N. 6c 458
So this rules out that Ada L as being your Ada.
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Thanks Rootgatherer
You are right, I know that Ada Workmans father was a dentist ( and that his father was a minister ) - so the Ada that you have found in Birmingham, ( father is an Engine Importer) cannot be the correct Ada.
Also, even if my relative got the name Mary as her mother, wrong, Ada is definately the daughter of Joseph Workman and her birth name is
Ada WORKMAN ( as here) and she was born in Dursley:
Births Dec 1899
Workman Ada Lily Dursley 6a 279
This is Ada's dad - Joseph Workman ( Jnr) in:
1881 Census: In South Petherton, Somerset
Joseph WORKMAN Head M Male 43 Dursley, Gloucester, England Wesleyn Minister
Mary WORKMAN Wife M Female 43 Williton, Somerset, England
Edith WORKMAN Daur Female 13 Crewe, Cheshire, England Scholar
Blanche WORKMAN Daur Female 11 Chorley, Lancashire, England Scholar
Alice Maud WORKMAN Daur Female 9 Chorley, Lancashire, England Scholar
Joseph WORKMAN Son Male 7 Mold, Flint, Wales Scholar
Henrietta GRANGER Serv U Female 26 Sth Petherton, Somerset, England General Servant Domestic
Dwelling Palmer Street
Census Place South Petherton, Somerset, England
Family History Library Film 1341575
Public Records Office Ref RG11 Piece / Folio 2390 / 48 Page Number 1
And in the 1891 Census : 417 Elmsley Western Super Mare
WORKMAN, Joseph Head Widower M 53 1838 Retired Wesleyan Minister Dursley Gloucs
WORKMAN, Mary E Daughter Single F 24 1867
Crewe Cheshire VIEW
WORKMAN, Edith J Daughter Single F 23 1868
Crewe Cheshire VIEW
WORKMAN, Joseph Son M 17 1874 Dental Student Mold Flintshire
ARLIDGE, Emma Servant Single F 26 1865 Domestic Servant Banbury Oxfordshire VIEW number: RG12 Piece: 1921 Folio: 67 Page: 65
Registration District: Axbridge Sub District:
Weston Super Mare EnumerationDistrict:
16 Ecclesiastical Parish: Christchurch
Civil Parish: Weston Super Mare Municipal Borough:
Elmsley, Boulevard, Weston Super Mare County:
Somersetshire
living 417 Elmsley Western Super Mare
Ada was my Nan........
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As I dont yet have Ada's birth cert. and therefore I dont know for a fact that whether her parents were married or not, but I do know that her dad was Joseph Workman ( a dentist ) and that her birt name is Ada Lily Workman born 1899 - I have just had a thought............
If we have found the correct Jospeh Workman in London in the 1901 & 1911 census'.............where was Ada ? and Ada's mum?
Surely, if Ada was not with her dad, she would be somewhere else in 1901 & 1911............we still havent found her though?
( and she couldnt have been with that family in Birmingham- as they were 'workmans; and their Ada was shown as a daughter of the head ! )
So, if thats not here.....where is she
Plus the other 'fact' that I have is her marriage in Dursley.........
Given that she was also born in Dursley..........it is quite probable, that she lived in Dursley as she was growing up?
Another fact that I have is that she ended her life living in Pontypridd, S.Wales.
Where is Ada Workman ( aged 1 / 2 ) in the 1901 census?
Where is Ada Workman( aged 11 /12 ) in the 1911 census?
A mystery.......
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You havn`t yet said wether Ada Lily had any siblings or not, and as shes your grandmother presumably you would know if she was an only child...... tracing any siblings may lead to Ada..........
.As Joseph is on his own in 1901 and 1911 would it be possible that they had seperated/divorced and Mary and Ada were in fact listed under a different surname?....maybe even Mary had remarried...?
I still think your first thing is to order Ada Lilys birth cert...... as this is your direct line you don`t want to be tracing back on the wrong line...
Nicky
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from lancs bmd (which obligigly give mother's maiden name if born in Chorley)
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1869
WORKMAN Blanche Chorley HOSEGOOD
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1871
WORKMAN Alice Maud Chorley Preston HOSEGOOD
so Joseph Workman senior (the minister) married Mary Hosegood
Marriages Sep 1865 (>99%)
Workman Joseph Williton 5c 541 (Somerset)
Mary is missing from this transcription as she has been mistranscribed as p 341
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for ref Ada's marriage
Marriages Mar 1919 (>99%)
Nash James Workman Dursley 6a 476
Workman Ada L Nash Dursley 6a 476
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as Joseph jnr was born in Mold this is presumably his birth reg
Births Sep 1873 (>99%)
WORKMAN Joseph Holywell 11b 267
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this is the closest to Ada I can find in 1901 but I don't have access to look at details
Ada E Workman name,
name abt 1899 city, Gloucestershire, England relation city, Gloucestershire
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yep...Ada is my Nan, but, I dont know if she had any siblings or not - she dies when I was tiny and my parents have both passed away - so no-one to ask Im afraid.
I may have to get the birth cert for her.............
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