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trying to find ethel mary haysman

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Charlotte

Charlotte Report 4 Nov 2009 20:30

haysman being a maiden name, griffin married name... with a daughter Edith 1906. living in edmonton in 1906 but originally from sussex

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 4 Nov 2009 20:37

So which surname are we looking for Edith 1906 under please?
Haysman or Griffin

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 4 Nov 2009 20:43

Can't find any marriages for Ethel Haysman to Griffin.

Cassy

EDIT

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~wave back to you Vivienne, sorry I begged off to bed last night with out seeing your edit on Roy's thread.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 4 Nov 2009 20:45

Nor me Cassy.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 4 Nov 2009 20:48

Cant find a birth for Ethel /Ethel Mary Haysman either!

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 4 Nov 2009 20:49

Oh good I don't need glasses then!

Couldn't see any marriage for Ethel Haysman to anyone!

Cassy

Linda

Linda Report 4 Nov 2009 20:49

could the maiden name be heasman?
Name: Ethel Mary Heasman
Year of Registration: 1879
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: East Grinstead
County: Surrey, Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 147 (click to see others on page

Regards Linda :)

Julie

Julie Report 4 Nov 2009 20:50

Not picking her up on the 1901 either

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 4 Nov 2009 20:53

poss??

Births Dec 1906 (>99%)
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Griffin Edith Jane Edmonton 3a 587


Cassy

Linda

Linda Report 4 Nov 2009 20:55

Perhaps alfred died?

Name: Ethel Mary Haysman
Spouse Name: Alfred Smith
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 4 Aug 1895
Parish: All Saints, Edmonton
County: Middlesex
Borough: Enfield

Regards Linda :)

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 4 Nov 2009 20:56

Going with Cassys birth for 1911.
but there is no first name transcribed for the wife/mother

GRIFFIN, Charles Edwards Head Married M 42 1869 Paperhanger Notting Hill London VIEW
GRIFFIN Wife Married F 42 1869 None Notting Hill London VIEW
GRIFFIN, Charles W G Son M 14 1897 None Bush Hill Park Engfield VIEW
GRIFFIN, William Son M 10 1901 School Lower Edmonton Middx VIEW
GRIFFIN, Elsie Daughter F 8 1903 School Lower Edmonton Middx VIEW
GRIFFIN, Edith Jane Daughter F 5 1906 School Lower Edmonton Middx VIEW
GRIFFIN, Frank Edward Son M 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 Lower Edmonton Middx
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
7380 Reference:
RG14PN7380 RG78PN357 RD132 SD5 ED30 SN18

Registration District:
Edmonton Sub District:
Edmonton EnumerationDistrict:
30 Parish:
Edmonton

Address:
27 Gordon Road Edmonton County:
Middlesex


Edit...
And upon viewing the original I can see why,but it COULD be Ethel

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 4 Nov 2009 21:00

Marriages Sep 1895 (>99%)
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Collyer Alfred Edward Edmonton 3a 448
Heaysman Ethel Mary Edmonton 3a 448
Hills Sarah Edmonton 3a 448
Smith Alfred Edmonton 3a 448


Cassy

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 4 Nov 2009 21:04

Yes Cassy,and Linda has found the Banns for her marrying Alfred Smith??;)

Edit..
Mayhap she married Mr Smith and then did a runner to Mr Griffin ,as my G gran did from her hubby Mr Cottee to her fancy man Mr Head

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 4 Nov 2009 21:09

At least they married, some of mine didn't even bother doing that!

Cassy :-)

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 4 Nov 2009 21:15

But fancy man Mr Head was married to a Miss Harris also

Who was present at his death in 1913 in the house where my G,Gran,gran and Mr Head (father of gran)were living!
She was the informant.

Linda

Linda Report 4 Nov 2009 21:16

Perhaps they both did a runner:

Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%)
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Barnes Edward Edmonton 3a 429
Griffin Charles Edward Edmonton 3a 429
Morris Helen Louisa Edmonton 3a 429
Pallett Su*nna Edmonton 3a 429

Oooh I love muddying the waters!!

Regards Linda :)

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 4 Nov 2009 21:20

No you havent Linda....

Thats what I think it says on the 1911 now you put the name Susanna forward,and it does say they were married 20 yrs.

But maybe he went to write Ethel and then changed it to Sussannah as an afterthought???
Anybody wanna look send mail addy!

Linda

Linda Report 4 Nov 2009 21:24

The first childs cert should be interesting:

Name: Charles William G Griffin
Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Edmonton
County: Essex, Hertfordshire, Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 474 (click to see others on page)

On the 1901 all I can see is a Charles W with a father charles e and a mother francis crossed out, then fanny written above?

Cheers Linda :)

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 4 Nov 2009 21:39

1901 England Census
about Charles E Griffin <<<<house decorator(widower)
Name: Charles E Griffin
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William E
Mother's Name: Eliza I
Gender: Male
Where born: Kensington, London, England

Civil parish: Edmonton
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Edmonton
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 192
Household Members: Name Age
William E Griffin 63
Eliza I Griffin 60
Charles E Griffin 32
Thomas G Griffin 30
Minnie Griffin 19
Edith Watts 10
Hilda Watts 8


So maybe Ethel did run off with the fancy man after all??


LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 4 Nov 2009 21:49

Ooher, and I thought the victorians were so straight laced!!

Cassy