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My grandmother Bessie Davis dau of Samuel & Emily Davis b 1885 in Haggerston, Shoreditch does not appear on 1891 & 1901 Census with her family. She 1st appears in 1911 married with 3 children. I think I have found her parents in 1891 Census with 5 children but no Bessie. I have searched GR & Ancestry but with no luck.
Any suggestions would be appreciated to my knowledge she was not adopted or fostered out.
Thankyou

Name: Bessie Sarah Davis
Year of Registration: 1886
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Shoreditch
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 128 (click to see others on page)





Name: Bessie Sarah Davis
Mother: Emily Davis
Father: Samuel Davis
Birth: date - city, Middlesex

is she using her middle name


June x

Name: Bessie Sarah Davis
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 13 Aug 1886
Father's Name: Samuel Davis
Mother's Name: Emily Davis
Parish: All Saints, Haggerston
Borough: Hackney
County: Middlesex

June
I have Bessie's birth cert naming her parents but in 1891 Census Bessie is not included & in 1891 census only Emily appears to be alive with just 1 son.
Why would she not be on the 1891 Census when she would have been 6. I note that Emily appears to be a widow then with just 1 13 yr old son with her.
Barbara

Artbeat
Thanks for that info, you have found my 1st baptism record for me. I have only just started with births deaths & marriages. Where did you get that info from?
June
She was always known as Bessie to my knowledge.
Barbara

another baptism on same day.

Name: Edith Jessie Davis
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 13 Aug 1886
Father's Name: Samuel Davis
Mother's Name: Emily Davis
Parish: All Saints, Haggerston
Borough: Hackney
County: Middlesex

Samuel is a carpenter

found on ancestry.

richard

Richard
That's great info you have there but why can I not find these 2 on 1891 or 1901 census.
I am now begining to think the perhaps they & others were put into a home or workhouse if Emily became a widow. But when I putBessie's name into search the census surely this would come up as to where they are.
Bessie did not die she went on to have 11 children.
Barbara

can you post the 1891 & 1901 cencus that you have.

richard

Sometimes inmates of institutions like workhouses were only listed by their initials.

Richard
I would if I knew how to do it. Sorry.
I am 99.9% sure that I have the correct parents as I have worked my way back from certs, I found Samuel & Emily on Ancestry in 1881 living with 5 children & yes he was a carpenter.
Then on 1901 census Emily was living with just 1 son & looks like she was a widow.
I have searched & doubled searched for Bessie but just cannot find her on any census .
Is there anything else that I need to tell you?
barbara

By 1901 the girls could well be in service and not with the family.

What was the mother, Emily's, maiden name? Possible the girls are with their grandparents and have been mistranscribed.

Barbara, if you give us the name, age and place of birth of the son in the 1891, we can look it up and post it here.

is this the family in 1881?

Name: Samuel Davis
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: St Lakes
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 3 Strewan Sq
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: House Carpenter

Registration district: Chelsea
Sub-registration district: Chelsea, South
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Davis 33
Emily Davis 31
Emily Davis 8
Samuel Davis 7
William Davis 3
James Davis 2
John Davis

richard

so emily is a widow by 1891.

Name: Emily Davis
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Pimlico, London, England

Civil parish: Chelsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Chelsea
Sub-registration district: Chelsea, North
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Emily Davis 41
William Davis 13

richard

1901 England Census
Name: Emily Davis
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Pimlico, London, England

Civil parish: Tooting Graveney
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Tooting Graveney
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Streatham
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 256
Household Members: Name Age
Emily Davis 51
Wm Davis 23
Jas Davis 22
Jno Davis 20




Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 469; Folio: 125; Page: 41.

Tree on Ancestry has Samuel dying in 1881!


From same tree, supposedly

Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%)
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Davis Samuel Eugene Wandsworth 1d 881a
Kirk Emily Wandsworth 1d 881a

is this samuel & emily,s marriage, Samuel is a carpenter.


Name: Samuel Eugene Davis
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Spouse Name: Emily Kirk
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1871
Parish: Christ Church, Battersea
County: Middlesex
Borough: Wandsworth
Father Name: Joseph Davis
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Kirk

richard

Yes Richard that is the family, I cannot find the family again in except for Emily & William.

Potty
William was age 13 & b in Chelsea.

I am puzzeled as to why I cannot find Bessie on ANY census age 6 in 1891 or 1901
Barbara

Found this one with a James Davis..... age 12 Also in the school a John Davis aged 9 and a George aged 6

1891 Census
Bessie Davis
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation: Scholar
Gender: Female
Where born: Chelsea, London, England

Civil parish: Ewell
Ecclesiastical parish: Banstead
Town: Banstead
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Epsom
Sub-registration district: Epsom
ED, institution, or vessel: Kensington and Chelsea District School and Cottage homes
Neighbors: View others on page



Regards Vera

still looking.

Name: Emily Elizabeth Sarah Davis
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 1 Sep 1872
Father's Name: Samuel Davis>>>>carpenter.
Mother's Name: Emily Davis
Parish: Saint Jude, Chelsea
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
County: Middlesex

richard