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Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,301 Send Message	Ozibird	Report	18 Nov 2009 20:46
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,301 Send Message	That's fine, & it may prove to be right because we can't find him any earlier than 1881 at the moment. Although we can't find a Thomas Collier from Newcastle under Lyme either. We'll continue looking so keep checking back. Ozi
Member Since: January 2005 Posts: 44 Send Message	Craig	Report	18 Nov 2009 20:55
Member Since: January 2005 Posts: 44 Send Message	do you think he was actually called william same as his father but was known as thomas
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,301 Send Message	Ozibird	Report	18 Nov 2009 21:13
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,301 Send Message	No we've checked him and he didn't marry Ada, so don't get that cert. Your bloke consistently says he's born Lichfield in 1862. As the census is taken in late March/early April it means he was probably born sometime between March 1861 & March 1862. These are the males born in Staffordshire at that time. Births Mar 1861 COLLIER Frederick Burton upon Trent 6b 2_8 Births Jun 1861 no males Births Sep 1861 COLLIER John Stone 6b 32 Births Dec 1861 COLLIER Edwin Burton 6b 270 COLLIER William Kings N 6c 403 COLLIER William Thomas Newcastle L. 6b 60 - found not to be your bloke. Births Mar 1862 COLLIER John Stourbridge 6c 195 COLLIER John Stourbridge 6c 196 COLLIER Joseph Burton 6b 287 COLLIER Walter Stoke T 6b 202 It is quite possible he wasn't born in Staffordshire at all but moved there when he was little and didn't know otherwise. Can't find a Thomas Collier in 1871 that would fit. Ozi
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,301 Send Message	Ozibird	Report	18 Nov 2009 21:23
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,301 Send Message	I've just checked Colliers born Lichfield on the 1911. This is your family. So Thomas is sticking with his story. COLLIER THOMAS M 1861 50 Toxteth Park Lancashire COLLIER ADA MARY F 1855 56 Toxteth Park Lancashire COLLIER SYDNEY THOMAS M 1882 29 Toxteth Park Lancashire COLLIER THOMAS M 1891 20 Toxteth Park Lancashire COLLIER NELLIE LOUISA F 1893 18 Toxteth Park Lancashire COLLIER ETHEL COLLIER F 1897 14 Toxteth Park Lancashire COLLIER ARTHUR THOMAS M 1899 12 Toxteth Park Lancashire COLLIER LYDIA COLLIER F 1903 8 Toxteth Park Lancashire
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,301 Send Message	Ozibird	Report	18 Nov 2009 21:25
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,301 Send Message	What you need to do is get his marriage certificate and find out his father's name & occupation. Because Thomas is a plumber his father might be in a similar occupation. Ozi
Member Since: January 2005 Posts: 44 Send Message	Craig	Report	18 Nov 2009 21:33
Member Since: January 2005 Posts: 44 Send Message	so ozi the thomas 1861 didn't mary ada then .also the thomas 1891 is my grandmas father
Member Since: January 2005 Posts: 3 Send Message	Helen	Report	19 Sep 2011 10:43
Member Since: January 2005 Posts: 3 Send Message	Hi Craig I just found you by googling Reule Cottage Haughton and gamekeeper. I am researching my grandfather who was a gamekeeper in Staffordshire and am trying to find all keepers in the area in the 1900's. I have William Collier b Audley Staffs 1862 at Reule Cottage Haughton in 1911. Can you tell me any more about him please? Thanks Helen
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 5,757 Send Message	lancashireAnn	Report	19 Sep 2011 13:15
	just to prove the Thomas /Ada shown in 1881 is the right one Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1879 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference COLLIER Sidney Thomas Lichfield Newcastle-Under-Lyme FAIRBROTHER L/46/55 edit just realised this is an old thread
	Researching: Liverpool (Cartwright, Chambers, Miller), Todmorden (Sutcliffe, Mallison), Abergavenny (Watkins, Prosser)

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