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Hi, I am looking for the birth of DESMOND AIKIN

I have his marriage in 1931 to Mary J Wilson in Wigton, Cumberland

I have his death in 1986 in Carlisle Cumberland . The death on ancestry states his birth as 20 may 1909.

Where ? I can't find a birth for him not in 1909 or any year around it, Nor does he appear to be on the 1911 census

Any ideas anybody

Thanks

This interesting Scottish name derives from "Ad", a pet form of the Hebrew male given name "Adam", meaning "red earth", with reference to the substance from which the first man was formed, plus the Olde English pre 7th Century diminutive suffix "-kin". One Atkyn de Barr is recorded in Ayrshire, in 1340. The surname first appears in the early 15th Century (see below), and Andrew Atkin appears as a witness in Aberdeen in 1469. Since the mid 17th Century the name has been widespread in north-east Ulster, the earliest reference being to William Ekyn, lessee on the Cunningham estate in 1613. In the modern idiom, the surname has many variant spellings including: Aiken, Aicken, Aikin, Aitkin, Aitken, Atkin, Aickin and Aitin




found this


June x

Wonder if this is him

Desmond Allchin 1909 Apr-May-Jun Essex

1911 census

HOUSEHOLD ALLCHIN DESMOND M 1909 2 Epping Essex
HOUSEHOLD ALLCHIN ELIZABETH ANN F 1877 34 Epping Essex
HOUSEHOLD ALLCHIN HAROLD M 1900 11 Epping Essex
HOUSEHOLD ALLCHIN HENRY M 1897 14 Epping Essex
HOUSEHOLD ALLCHIN TOM M 1866 45 Epping Essex
HOUSEHOLD ALLCHIN TOM REYNOLD M 1894 17 Epping

Cheers Sue

Did he marry again......

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Desmond Aikin
Name: Desmond Aikin
Spouse Surname: Lithgow
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1981
Registration district: Carlisle
Registration county (inferred): Cumberland
Volume Number: 1
Page Number: 0128
Find Spouse: Margaret

He may have been born in Scotland, in which case you need 'Scotland's People'

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June thankyou for that, I shall be adding that to his name.

Sue ..anything is possible certainly worth keeping in mind thankyou for looking for me

Ginny I'm not sure if he married again , I took that to maybe his son

Thankyou all for looking for me

edit to say ... I shall go the long route and send for the marriage certificate I think.

I wonder if this could be a sister?

Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
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Aikin Agnes B McCaw Wigton 10b 1157



Sorry I know that doesnt help with his birth but thought I would post

The only marriage for his possible parents was 1885 which is a bit early really to have had Desmond in 1909. It's looking more and more like they came from Scotland

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Ginny thanks for looking, mind if that is his sister then I wonder if McCaw is his mothers maiden name ?

*Re-vamping this thread for new info*

I have still lost DESMOND AIKIN or at least the birth of. I now have the marriage cert of Desmond and Mary J WILSON
He was age 22 in 1931 which does make him born in 1909 His father is
HENRY LINDSAY AIKIN deceased a gas manager ....

There is a death in Wigton in 1926 for Henry L age 55 making his DOB 1871

I CAN'T find him either. He doesn't show up on the Scottish census of 1901 and he doesn't show up on a search of the 1911.

In Wigton biths after 1900 are
Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
Aikin Agnes B McCaw Wigton 10b 1157 I think maybe a sister

Births Sep 1924 (>99%)
AIKIN Patricia M Aikin Wigton 10b 1089
Interesting could be an older sister to Desmond being naughty

Births Mar 1932 (91%)
Aikin Kathleen A Wilson Wigton 10b 846
Desmonds child I know of

Births Sep 1932 (94%)
Aikin Maureen Carr Wigton 10b 845
the child of Kennedy Aikin and Isabella Carr who married in 1932 Wigton
Is Kennedy a brother to Desmond as I can't find him either

There is a death for a Lucy Aikin in Wigton age 50 in 1922 could this be the mother possibly making her Lucy McCaw b 1872 who I can't find.
I also can't find an Aikin -McCaw marriage

Help please ...Thank you for looking

Have a look here - this might just make your day!!

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002295581/

Then go to the record pilot search on www.familysearch.org

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As is so often the case - Scottish and Irish surnames can so often be alike.

Sorry posted twice

For the benefit of other helpers, this is what it says.



Residents of house number 8 in Railway Street (Donaghadee Urban, Down)

Aiken Henry 39 Male
Aiken Agnes 38 Female
Aiken Henry 19 Male
Aiken Madeline 16 Female
Aiken Maxwell 14 Male
Aiken Jane 4 Female
Aiken Desmond 1 Female
Aiken Kennedy 0 Male
Kennedy Grace 79 Female


And Desmond's birth is here

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordResults;birthYear=1909;surname=Aiken;search
Type=standard;givenName=Desmond;birthPlace=Ireland;birth
PlaceId=1927084

Desmond was born in Northern ireland and yes Kennedy was his brother.

If you google Aikin family from Wigton Cumberland ,the first on page has henry lindsay Aikin parents and siblings and all Henry Lindsay Aikin's wife Agnes Bloomer and children nearly all were born in Donagadee Northern ireland.

This is 100% the people you are looking for.

Maryb

Henry Lindsay and Agnes Boomer had henry 1891 died 1931 dalston northumberland married Agnes McCaw

Mary, rootgatherer and jan

Thankyou I was going in despair .. I never thought of pilot search on LDS

Thank You all

No problem - and Henry's occupation is correct on the image of the actual household return! That Aunt living with them also lets you know where Kennedy got his name! Because the census tells you how long that they had been married for you should be able to find the marriage certificate too.

I was trying to connect all these marriages I found but couldn't trace any of them but now that
Rootgatherer + Mary have posted the Irish info they seem to connect to you may want to follow them?:

Marriages Mar 1920
Aikin Madeline Harrison Wigton 10b 1132

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Marriages Mar 1931
Aikin Annie A Forsyth Wigton 10b 822

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Marriages Sep 1931
Aikin Desmond Wilson Wigton 10b 1183

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Marriages Mar 1932
Aikin Kennedy Carr Wigton 10b 963

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Marriages Sep 1935
Aikin Jane Swan Wigton 10b 1345

Dea x

Well done Dea - those look promising! It looks like the whole family came over from Ireland together then.

I possibly should have said here that the Irish cerificates don't give a lot of information (a bit lke the English ones). But then I am probably just spoiled with so many Scottish ones. I ordered some Irish certificates recently and was a bit disappointed that on the widows death certificate, it didn't even give her late husband's name - just his occupation!

Put Aiken from Donaghadee in search ,there are 3 people who have trees with same people as yours including a Maxwell.

Maryb

Thanks all unfortuately I have been off line again for awhile.

This might interest you
AICKEN family Donaghadee came over from Scotland with Hugh Montgomery in 1603 as tradesmen to help build the port & town

Hugh MONTGOMERY Esq. Donaghadee proprietor of Ballycraboy townland in 1659 SP
. Hugh MONTGOMERY . Donaghadee will probated in 1701

Henry AICKEN . Donaghadee manager of gas works in Railway St, Donaghadeein 1910