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Jennifer

You can either ask someone to get you some software for Christmas eg Rootsmagic, Family Treemaker etc. or you can download Personal Ancestral File (PAF) free at www.familsearch.org I used the free one for years and the advantage of it is if you want to share with other members of your family everyone has free access to the software.

I did a course a couple of years ago and they wanted us to use Family Treemaker which I now use for my own family stuff. The benefit of it is if you have a subscription to Ancestry.co.uk, when you enter a new name you can see if there are possible matches on Ancestry (eg Census records that match the name and year of birth).

The references that your were asking about are where the helpers have given you the "Source" reference so the record can be found again. Software programmes for storing your tree usually allow you to store your sources. They can also be a useful way of filing hard copies of your material.

Many thanks for everyones help especially Mel. I have found out that there are several spellings of BICKERDYKE which is very interesting. I am sorting out the maze of info given, just one murky bit is:

My understanding of the family is

JOSEPH BORN 1786 MARRIED 18 JULY 1819
ANN DAY BORN 1788.

I cannot figure out how Matthew born 18 July 1809 can be their son

I did find twins called Matthew and Banjamin but they appeared to die before they reached one years of age.

Is it worth joining Ancestry.co.uk. Will I learn quicker and is it easy to use and finally when I have all this info what is the best web page to build my tree on.. Thanks again

JOSEPH BICKERDIKE Pedigree
Male Family


Marriages:
Spouse: ANN DAY Family
Marriage: 18 JUL 1819 Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

This census is the one with Israel on it at 16 years old and he is grandson to the head of the house Joseph and wife Ann.

1851 England Census
about Joseph Bickerdike
Name: Joseph Bickerdike <<<<<<<Coal Miner
Age: 65
Estimated birth year: abt 1786
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Kippax, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Newton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:Spring Gardens

Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration district: Newton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2i
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 153
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Bickerdike 65
Ann Bickerdike 63
Mary Bickerdike 39
Elizabeth Bickerdike 36
Margaret Bickerdike 21
Issacl Bickerdike 16 1835 Hyde Cheshire This reads Israel on the actual census G son
Adorah Bickerdike 15 1836 Newton Ches. G Dau
Joseph Bickerdike 12 1839 Newton Ches. G son
Alfred Bickerdike 10 1841 Newton Ches. G son
Jennie Bickerdike 9 1842 Newton Ches and Jennie is Jemima G Dau

Right I hope you can follow this!!

Israel Bickerdyke 1836 born cheshire/Lancashire

Parents

Matthew Bickerdyke and Hannah Blanksmith

This is his Chrsitening

MATTHEW BIGGADITE Pedigree
Male

Birth: 18 JUL 1809

Christening: 27 AUG 1809 Saint Michael, Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England
Parents:
Father: JOSEPH BIGGADITE Family
Mother: ANN

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
There is also a Benjamin Biggadite with the birth of 16 Jul 1809 which I think must be a transcription error and they were twins as 18 Jul for Matthew and 16 for Benjamin both Christened same day same parents

Matthew Bickerdyke's parents were Joseph Bickerdyke born Yorkshire and Ann Day born Cheshire.


Joseph Bickerdyke married Ann Day.

Continued on next posting.

MATTHEW BICKADIKE Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: HANNAH BLANKSMITH Family
Marriage: 26 DEC 1830 Mottram In Longdendale, Cheshire, England


Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1855
BICKERDYKE Israel CORTHORN Lydia Stockport, St Mary

Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1861 to 1865

BICKERDYKE Alfred CLEGG Hannah Ashton under Lyne, St Michael
BICKERDYKE Israel HODSON Lavina Stayley, St Paul

I should think this is the Christening of Israel 1836 as his daughters marriage comes under Lancashire/Cheshire and he had a son Matthew.

ISRAEL BICKERDYKE Pedigree
Male


Birth:
Christening: 11 OCT 1835 Saint Michael, Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England

Parents:
Father: MATTHEW BICKERDYKE Family
Mother: HANNAH

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

AND HIS SISTER's Christening

ADORAH BICKERDIKE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 25 JUN 1837 Saint Michael, Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England


Did'nt he have a child named Dora???

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Margaret Ann Bickerdyke
Name: Margaret Ann Bickerdyke
Year of Registration: 1894
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Ashton Under Lyne
County: Cheshire, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 672




Margaret Ann Bickerdyke 1894 Ashton Under Lyne Cheshire, Lancashire

James Gee 1894 Ashton Under Lyne Cheshire, Lancashire

The 1901 census is transcribed wrong as the Mary Ann is his daighter but her surname is Gee and so are the children Eva and Alice? Gee. Mary Ann Gee is a widow too.

This is it
1901 England Census
about Mary Ann Bickerdyke
Name: Mary Ann Bickerdyke
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Israel
Gender: Female
Where born: Dukinfield, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Dukinfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Dukinfield St Mark
Town: Dukinfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:<<< 3 Old Hall St.****************

Occupation: Mary Ann is a cotton weaver Israel is a coal Miner

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Ashton-under-Lyne
Sub-registration district: Stalybridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Israel Bickerdyke 65
Mary Ann Bickerdyke 29 <<<<<Gee
Eva Bickerdyke 6 <<<<<Gee
Alice Bickerdyke 3 <<<<Gee

Jennifer it is all on Ancestry.com

The marriages to Lydia and Lavinia are the same Israel born 1836 Cheshire. The last one I put up could be his son born 1860.

Okay getting loads of info now, will be able to look properly tonight. One thought though, could be great great grandfather Israel was married to Lydia and son Israel was married to Lavinia. Still can't figure out how you got all this in such a short time, I must be looking in the wrong places coupled with inexperience.

Thats why I put up the two marriages to Lydia and Lavina.

Also on the 1891 census Israel is a widower with daughters.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Israel Bickerdyke
Name: Israel Bickerdyke
Year of Registration: 1880
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Ashton Under Lyne
County: Cheshire, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 764




Mary Ann Bamber 1880 Ashton Under Lyne Cheshire, Lancashire

Israel Bickerdyke 1880 Ashton Under Lyne Cheshire, Lancashire

Death of Lydia:

Deaths Sep 1864 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bickerdyke Lydia Ashton 8d 295

Could he have married Lavinia after death of Lydia?

BICKERDYKE, Israel Marriage
Wife: Lavina HODSON
Marriage Date: 20 Feb 1865 Recorded in: Staley, Cheshire, England
Husband's Father: Matthew BICKERDYKE
Source: FHL Film Dates: 1861 - 1872

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Israel Bickerdyke
Name: Israel Bickerdyke
Year of Registration: 1865
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Ashton Under Lyne
County: Cheshire, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 672




Israel Bickerdyke 1865 Ashton Under Lyne Cheshire, Lancashire


Lavina Hodson 1865 Ashton Under Lyne Cheshire, Lancashire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Israel Bickerdyke
Name: Israel Bickerdyke
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Year of Registration: 1907
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 71
District: Ashton Under Lyne
County: Cheshire, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 394

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Israel Bickerdyke
Name: Israel Bickerdyke
Year of Registration: 1855
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Stockport
County: Cheshire, Lancashire
Volume: 8a
Page: 92



Israel Bickerdyke 1855 Stockport Cheshire, Lancashire

Lydia Corthorn 1855 Stockport

OMG such info. I am obviously doing something wrong. I do know he was born in 1836 and lived in Dukinfield etc. I am very interested to find out where all this info was found. There seems to be some differences. My great grandmother was called Margaret Ann however I thought his wife was called Lydia not Lavinia. Also what are all the numbers (RG, Folio) so much to learn so little time..........