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I am interested in the above Charles Hildreth. He married ELIZABETH LANGFORD, in Dalziel Parish, Scotland, Jul 10 1891.

Through Ancestry, I have been directed to census entry for 1891, which has Charles, his parents Francis and Elizabeth, livng in England. I'll clarify where when I check.

What baffles me, is where Charles has gone in the 1901 census? I have wife , now Eliza, with her children, living in Holytown, Parish of Bothwell. Charles is not with them.

However, Charles and Elizabeth have a son, John Thomas, May 31 1903. On the birth certificate, Charles is given as"present", at birth.

At time of Charles marriage, and John Thomas' birth, Charles is recorded as being a puddler/puddler in iron works.

I will be greatful to any reply.

Gail

1901 FOR REFERENCE Eliza Hildrith
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Dalziel, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 625/2
Registration district: Holytown
Civil parish: Holytown
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Jerviston Sq
ED: 8
Household schedule number: 41
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1901_248
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Hildrith 42
Francis Hildrith 10
Lavina Hildrith 7
Charles Hildrith 6
Joseph Hildrith 5
Samuel Hildrith 3
Lizzie Hildrith 1
Thomas Langford

IS THIS THE CENSUS YOU HAVE?

COULD HAVE BEEN WORKING 1901 CENSUS NIGHT ,AS YOU HAVE A BIRTH IN 1903

Elizabeth Langford
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Lavinia
Gender: Female
Where born: Motherwell, Lanark
Registration Number: 639
Registration district: Dalziel
Civil parish: Dalziel
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 54-56 Milton St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 163
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1871_122
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Langford 52
Lavinia Langford 49
Joseph Langford 20
Williams Langford 18
Job Langford 15
Elizabeth Langford 13
Thomas Langford 7
Henry Langford 5


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HAVE YOU MARRIAGE DETAILS FOR CHARLES HILDRETH?
PARENTS?

Are both his parents alive in marriage details.Could one have died around 1901 census?

I FIND IT STRANGE THAT IN MARCH 1891 HE IS IN ENGLAND AND HE MARRIES IN JULY OF THAT YEAR IN SCOTLAND

Thanks so much, Ellieathome.

This is indeed the family that I am following. It is only through having replied to a query on another site, that I found that there was a possibility of Charles having been born in England, and thus, the possibility, of his parents being married there too.

I had only really looked back to Charles and his wife Elizabeth, Their son, John Thomas married my late grandmother, therefore, in essence, becoming my mum's stepfather. All of mum's siblings are those of John Thomas , and my grandmother, Alice.

Have to say, I hadn't thought about the option of working away on the night in question. Don't suppose such a thing would have been noted. It was the fact that Eliza was recorded as Head , I guessed John Thomas was not about!

Thanks again.

Gail

Just had a look at marriag for Charles and Elizabeth.

At time of marriage, Charles' father, Francis, is recorded as general labourer. Mother,Elizabeth, is recorded as deceased.

Out of curiousity, where did you find Charles in England on the 1891 census.? (it will help me have a look on Ancestry)

Cheers

Gail

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ELIZABETH LANGFORD Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth: 10 SEP 1859 Dalziel, Lanark, Scotland

Christening:
Death:
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Parents:
Father: SAMUEL LANGFORD Family
Mother: LAVINIA EDWARDS


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Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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jUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT CENSUS

not found the 1891 England census with a Charles Hildreth with a father named Francis? What is his parents names in the 1891 marriage .Francis Hildreth,and Elizabeth ?

Hi Ellie.

Looks like Charles mother Elizabeth's maiden name was Oxley.


Gail

was he 33 in marriage details according to a tree in Ancestry
Birth
1858 in Stockton, Durham, England Death
1927 in Lanarkshire, Scotland

1861
Charles Hildreth
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Francis
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Stockton, Durham, England

Civil parish: Stockton On Tees
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Stockton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Stockton
Sub-registration district: Stockton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 99
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Hildreth 28
Elizabeth Hildreth 36
Charles Hildreth 4
Thomas Hildreth 2
Joseph Hildreth 6 Mo


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I would just like to add more to my post.

I have looked at different options on ancestry to find either Charles, or his father Francis on 1891 census, anywhere in England, but paying most attention to the Durham area. No joy.

I have also looked for Charles in Scotland, on the 1891 census, and have drawn another blank.

I feel that I am going round in circles, and this really has got me stumped!

Can anyone offer any other ideas?

I should add a big thanks to ellieathome, for all of her help.

Gailx

1871
Sarah Iveson
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Darlington, Durham, England
Civil parish: Darlington
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Darlington
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Darlington
Sub-registration district: Darlington
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Iveson 40
Robert Iveson 16
Margaret J Iveson 8
Christopher Parnel 40
John Connor 28
James Denton 29
Charles Hildreth 15 c1856 Stockton,Durham,NEPHEW

Elizabeth Hildreth
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Year of Registration: 1867
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 42
District: Darlington
County: Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding
Volume: 10a
Page: 6 (click to see others on page)
COULD BE WHY WE CAN'T FIND THEM IN A LATER CENSUS THAN 1861
DATE C1825 IS SAME AS STATED IN 1861 CENSUS

Ellen Brotherton 1855 Darlington Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding
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Francis Hildreth 1855 Darlington Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding
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Elizabeth Oxley 1855 Darlington Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding
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William Peverley 1855 Darlington Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding

Francis Hildreth
Year of Registration: 1855
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Darlington
County: Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding
Volume: 10a
Page: 19 (click to see others on page)

Eleanor Groves 1870 Darlington Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding
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Mary Hammond 1870 Darlington Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding
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Francis Hildreth 1870 Darlington Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding
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Thomas Taylor 1870 Darlington Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding

Francis Hildreth
Year of Registration: 1870
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Darlington
County: Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding
Volume: 10a
Page: 10 (click to see others on page)

COULD BE A SECOND MARRIAGE FOR FRANCIS HILDRETH

1881
Frank Hildreth
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1833 GENERAL LABOURER
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ellen C1849 FARNHAM,SURREY
Gender: Male
Where born: Darlington, Durham, England

Civil parish: Battersea
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 98 Church Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: General Labor

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Hildreth 48
Ellen Hildreth 32
C. H. Tinden 24
Edward Cudon 42


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COULD THIS BE FRANCIS AND ELEANOR