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Thanks Kucinta - just logged on again - computer crashed yet again yesterday and just managed to get on now - I think I've rattled too many old bones lately !!

Thats a great help - thanks and sorry again I couldnt get back to you yesterday

Rosie x

7 children born of the marriage, 2 deceased by 1911.

EDMONDS, William Frank Head Married M 48 1863 Butcher London S
EDMONDS, Anne Wife Married 28 years F 50 1861 Surrey
EDMONDS, George William Son Single M 21 1890 Farm Labourer Surrey Croydon
EDMONDS, Florence Beatrice Daughter Single F 19 1892 Surrey Croydon
EDMONDS, Ethel Mary Daughter Single F 17 1894 At Home Surrey Croydon
EDMONDS, Sydney Frank Son M 7 1904 School Surrey Croydon

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7968 Reference:
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Registration District:
Winslow Sub District:
Winslow Enumeration District:
16 Parish:
Winslow

Address:
Horn St Winslow County:
Buckinghamshire

TARGETT, Harry Jacob Head Married 18 years M 46 1865 Dairyman Chute Lodge Hants
TARGETT, Elizabeth Nellie Wife Married F 44 1867 Assisting In The Business Southwark London
EDEN, Elizabeth Sarah Mother In Law Widow F 73 1838 Visitor Clerkenwell London
>>>BLAKE, Maud Violet Servant Single F 16 1895 Domestic Servant Croydon Surrey

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6937 Reference:
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Registration District:
Brentford Sub District:
Chiswick Enumeration District:
10 Parish:
Chiswick

Address:
5 the Parade Grove Park Road Chiswick

Aiso on the same page but not transcribed is Alfred Charles Blake brother 43 cabman married, Croydon. He is written between the line for James Herbert Blake and the line for Selina Blake

5 children born of the marriage, 2 deceased by 1911.

BLAKE, Frederick James Father Married 27 years M 49 1862 Cab Man Croydon
BLAKE, Susannah Jane Mother Married 27 years F 50 1861 Shirley
BLAKE, Frederick William Son Married M 26 1885 Cab Proprietor Croydon
BLAKE, James Herbert Son Single M 19 1892 Coach Man Croydon
BLAKE, Selina Daughter Married F 30 1881 Foultland Bath
BLAKE, Frederick William Son M 2 1909 Standwell Near St Aure

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6937 Reference:
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Registration District:
Brentford Sub District:
Chiswick Enumeration District:
10 Parish:
Chiswick

Address:
1 Grove Park Mews Chiswick County:
Middlesex

Hi - More look- up requests for my grt aunt Jane Edmonds please and her brother William in 1911

Jane Blake ( Susannah Jane ) b 1860 in Camberwell
James Blake (Frederick James) b 1862 in Shirley, Surrey
Herbert Blake b 1892 Croydon
Maud Blake b 1894 Croydon

In 1901 they were living in Hammersmith in Grove Mews and William has stables and is a cab proprieter

Jane's brother William Frank Edmonds b 1862 Newington
Anne b 1961 Upper Norwood, Surrey
Children Lillian Rose 1884, George 1891, Florence 1894 and Ethel 1896 - all born in Norwood, Surrey

In 1901 they were living in Victory Place, Norwood, Surrey and William is a coachman

If anyone could find out where they were in 1901 or if some of the children were then married I would be very grateful and details of marriage and children born within the marriages.

Jane also had a son Frederick W Blake b 1884 in Croydon who was with his grandfather George Edmonds in Croydon in 1901workiing as a baker in the family business- I cant find any definate records of him after that so if anyone can find him as well that would be great

Thanks alot - I have alot of faith in you guys x

thanks - got to go for a while but will be back later so will look to see whats new x

Absolutely Andrew

But I can see whoever transcribed the names for Ancestry thinking that Susannah's surname could be Edwards.

Jill

The address ties the 3 baptisms to the 1861 census anyway.

Andy

I've just looked at the image for the baptisms. All 3 November.

In order they are:

Mary Anne (b. 4 Oct 1861) looks like Edmonds
George (b. 1 Feb 1859) - to me it looks like Edmonds but the M is a bit squashed so someone could read that as a W.
Susannah Jane (b. 23 Feb 1860) - looking at that one in isolation it looks like Edwards - but taking into account the other two baptisms it is Edmonds. It's on the top of the right hand page (double-page spread) and the other two entries are at the bottom of the left hand page.

Jill

Do you think that Edmonds was mistranscribed as Edwards on Jane's baptism or am I having one of my days!

Marriage for George and Mary Ann is correct

Just ignore this - I didnt think it sent the first one!

If the information was given verbally it's possible that the vicar/clerk or whoever wrote it down wrote it down incorrectly.

It's also possible that the vicar made a rough note at the time of the baptisms and then copying it out tidily later couldn't read the handwriting.

Either way they are very similar names.

Jill

Do you think that Edmonds has been mistranscribed as Edwards or am not thinking straight - must be the sun!

Here's the marriage:

Mary Ann Case
Spouse Name: George Edmonds
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Feb 1858
Parish: Saint George, Camberwell
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Joseph Case
Spouse Father Name: George Edmonds

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Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint George, Camberwell, Register of marriages, P73/GEO, Item 028


Address for both is Southampton Street
George is a baker
George's father is a labourer
Mary's father is a blacksmith
Witnesses - James Simpson and Eliza Case.

Jill

Back to that 1861 again -

William Case - aged 19 - shows as a servant, baker's assistant. He was born in Dorset - Wootton Fitzhaine(?).

Mary Ann (wife) was born in the same place - and I found this marriage:

Marriages Mar 1858 (>99%)
CASE Mary Ann Camberwell 1d 496 Scan available - click to view
DOUSE Jane Dorcas Camberwell 1d 496 Scan available - click to view
DURRANT John James Camberwell 1d 496 Scan available - click to view
EDMONDS George Camberwell 1d 496 Scan available - click to view


Will go and rummage in Ancestry parish records to see if I can spot it there to confirm George's occupation etc.

Jill

good thinking Mrs Grumpy - by the way I thought I was the only Mrs Grumpy at Christmas - I hate it !!

Result!

I do like it when a plan comes together.

Andy

Hi Rosie

Didn't think the 1861 girl was correct but could not spot the 1860 child, so posted the 1861 for you to eliminate her!

Jill

Bingo Andrew!!

Just checked the address for the 1861 and it's

"4 Eden Place O.K.R."

Jill

Sorry Mrs grumpy - George was definately a baker - I have family memoriabilia and references to the businesses and he was married to Mary ann Case- who has been mistranscribed as Morgan

Re the Blakes - this is possible - cheers

I'm still here if anyone finds anything else x

This looks like the LMA record for Sussanah Jane, missspelt

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Susannah Jane Edward
Name: Susannah Jane Edward
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 3 Nov 1861
Father's Name: George Edward
Mother's Name: Mary Anne Edward
Parish: Saint George, Camberwell
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex

Parents names correct, George is a Baker.

Address 4 Eden Place Old Kent Road.

Also baptisted same day were George and Mary Anne.