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If someone could find the following
on the 1861 please ? Not looking for later info on him , other than to identify his parents in order to 'eliminate' him .

Births Dec 1856 (>99%)

Collins William Edward Joseph Poplar

Thankyou

Rose x

there are also these two William Collins born Jun 1857 Kensington

and William Collins born March 1858 Chelsea

so it is difficult ( sorry ) to id individually but if all 3 are found with named parents then it will eliminate them also lol

Thanks

Rose x

?

1861
Name: William Collins
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Islington St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 47
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 298
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Collins 36
William Collins 5


or this one


1861 England Census about William Collins
Name: William Collins
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Rachel
Gender: Male
Where born: Kensington, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Kensington St Mary Abbott
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
Town: Kensington
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 142
Household Members:
Name Age
William Collins 30
Rachel Collins 26
William Collins 5
James Collins 3
Rachel Collins 1

A Poss....


1861 England Census about William Collins
Name: William Collins
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Benjamin
Mother's Name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Shoreditch St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: Hoxton St John the Evangelist
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Hoxton New Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 273
Household Members:
Name Age
Benjamin Collins 31
Fanny Collins 35
Benjamin Collins 6
William Collins 5
John Collins 3
Frank Collins 1
Sara King 46
William Multit 16
William Hudson 18


Misty x

Thankyou Misty :)) that's two eliminated ! :)

xx

oooh Thankyou Maggie..make that 3 eliminated!

xx

Do you have any more info about his family?


Misty x

well here is the brief version, lol, because i don't want to confuse and some is on another thread.

I have found that the marriage of William Fishlock and Ann Collins was in 1859, the birth of William their son was in 1857/8 ( going from death and every census in between...) Edit have all the family together from 1861 on incl siblings.

so obv 'son ' was born before marriage...which means he would have been William Collins , if William F was not named on cert , trying to eliminate those born in Chelsea area .

1861 England Census about William Fishlock
Name: William Fishlock
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Isleworth
Ecclesiastical parish: Isleworth All Saints
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Isleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 37
Household Members:
Name Age
William Fishlock 22
Ann Fishlock 21
William Fishlock 3

Misty x

Thanks Misty I was just scrabbling about trying to find that to put it up for ref... ( I have all the census info but my Ancestry sub has just run out...the day I notice the discrepancy between birth date and marriage lol)

xx

Hi here is the family in 1871
1871 census

Name William Fishlock
Age 33
Estimated Year of Birth 1838
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Lighterman
Address 27 Jefferson Street
District Poplar, Bow
Parish
Administrative County London
Birth Place Isleworth
Birth County Middlesex
in house
william head 33
ann 32
william 14 born chelsea
john 7
anne 5
mary 4
james collins brother in law 16
maria collins sister in law 13

I have today got the marriage cert of William and Ann ...and a birth cert which I hoped might be William ( Edward) ... it is Edward Fishlock 's not right mum.... there are no births for William Fishlock...so though it is poss he just wasn't registered ... he might be a Collins ...

Hi PollyP thanks yes, I have that and didn't want to get anyone bogged down too much... i have all census info on Fishlocks...it is just trying to find out whether he IS a Fishlock !

xx

and should have said Ann Collins on marriage cert is a spinster.

1861 census

Name William Fishlock
Age 3
Estimated Year of Birth 1858
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Address Parsonage
District Brentford, Isleworth
Parish
Administrative County Middlesex
Birth Place Chelsea
Birth County Middlesex
in house
william head 22 lighterman
ann wife 21
william 3
RG 9 / 771

Now I'm confused ( not hard to do, by the way) if he was on 1861 census with Ann and William, as Fishlock, he wouldnt be on there as Collins as well......would he?

Misty x

Misty lol as confused as me now ;)

No William Fishlock is as below aged 3 in 1861... what I was trying to do was eliminate the William Collins born in 1857/58 by finding them on the census...there are only a few born in Chelsea at the right time...if found with parents I won't have to order the certs to check.

im confused too lol
have i got it wrong this seems to be the right family in 1861 census

In other words , lol, by 1861 he was William Fishlock son of William and Ann.. but when he was born he might have been reg as William Collins , son of Ann only...

I need a lie down lol

xx

Ahhh ok.....told you I was easy to confuse....truth could be, I dont read thing's close enough ;(

Misty x

lol Misty if I had read the date of his parents marriage earlier i might not have been in this mess :)