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can anyone help please!! lillian norgrove

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hayleybaugh

hayleybaugh Report 2 Feb 2010 17:41

you deserve a drink x thank you so much x

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 2 Feb 2010 17:39

phew! I need a drink now!

hayleybaugh

hayleybaugh Report 2 Feb 2010 17:37

thank you so much this is a GREAT result!! well done!! xx

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 2 Feb 2010 17:35

1901 England Census
about Samuel Carter
Name: Samuel Carter
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Oakengates, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Dawley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Leonard
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Madeley
Sub-registration district: Dawley
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 121
Household Members: Name Age
John Carter 38
Emma Carter 43 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ludlow, Shropshire
Annie Carter 12
Elizabeth Carter 27
Samuel Carter 5
William Carter 1



Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2524; Folio: 33; Page: 18.


Samuel and William are both down as sons??


Maybe you should get in touch with this person she seems to have a lot of your relatives in her tree

Saved to Public Family Trees
William in Pugh Family Tree
Saved by DeniseShanahan49 on Jun 10, 2009

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 2 Feb 2010 17:34

So the speculation was right after all! What a satisfying result.

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 2 Feb 2010 17:32

Big sigh of relieve!!!

but where's Beatrice!!!

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 2 Feb 2010 17:32

It's right!!!

1911 census transcription details for: 4 Old Park Road

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN16016 RG78PN988 RD348 SD1 ED2 SN134


Reg. District: Madeley Sub District: Dawley
Parish: Dawley Magna Enum. District: 2
Address: 4 Old Park Road
County: Shropshire

CARTER, John Head Married M 48 1863 Labourer Cowman Henley
CARTER, Emma Wife Married
19 years F 53 1858 Bitterley Shropshire
CARTER, Samuel Henry Grandson Single M 15 1896 Labourer Cowman Oakengates
CARTER, Lilly Granddaughter F 7 1904 Wellington


Maureen

hayleybaugh

hayleybaugh Report 2 Feb 2010 17:28

i was confused to start with but from the information you have found for me its starting to peace together.

emma norgrove (carter) was beatrice norgroves mother and beatrice was lillians mother.

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 2 Feb 2010 17:26

Thank you both!

hope it's right!

:-)

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 2 Feb 2010 17:25

So her mother married a "Carter" she took his name but when she married she used the name "Norgrove" as she was born??


EDIT
No Emma was her grandmother, oh I'm getting confused now!

hayleybaugh

hayleybaugh Report 2 Feb 2010 17:19

thank you so much! i never would of found this by myself x

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 2 Feb 2010 17:17

Well done! Maybe the source of the carter name in original post?
Jan

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 2 Feb 2010 17:15


Think I've found her?






1911

HOUSEHOLD CARTER EMMA F 1858 53 Madeley Shropshire


HOUSEHOLD CARTER JOHN M 1863 48 Madeley Shropshire
HOUSEHOLD CARTER LILLY F 1904 7 Madeley Shropshire <<<<<<<<<
HOUSEHOLD CARTER SAMUEL HENRY M 1896 15 Madeley Shropshire

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 2 Feb 2010 17:10

Looks like she married a Carter??

Name: Emma Norgrove
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Wellington Sal
County: Shropshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 1536

Harriet Cadman 1891 Wellington Sal Shropshire
View Record
>>>>>>>>>>>>John Carter 1891 Wellington Sal Shropshire
View Record
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Emma Norgrove 1891 Wellington Sal Shropshire
View Record
James Onions 1891 Wellington Sal Shropshire

hayleybaugh

hayleybaugh Report 2 Feb 2010 17:06

freewheel, im sorry im new to this x

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 2 Feb 2010 17:04

1881 England Census
about Emma Norgrove
Name: Emma Norgrove
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Female
Where born: Stoke St Milbro, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Stanton Lacy
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street Address: "Ludlow Union Workhouse" Gravel Hill
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Cook Domestic Servt

Registration district: Ludlow
Sub-registration district: Ludlow
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Worthington 35
Mary Mountford 54
Ann Fieldhouse 66
William Lloyd 81
Elizabeth Wilkinson 28
Hannah Breakwell 50
Henry Breakwell 6
William Breakwell 3
William Hartland 75
John Huff 58
John Huff 12
William Huff 7
Annie Andrews 12
Sarah Andrews 10
Richard Edwards 81
Ann Edwards 77
Edward Thomas 61
Sarah Vaughn 35
Mary Wright 66
Edward Turner 76
George Pritchard 11
Lucy Pritchard 8
Thomas Higgins 11
Edwd. Higgins 7
Joseph Bennett 71
Tabetha Bourton 70
Ann Banks 41
Ernest Banks 11
Ann Thomas 59
William Dyer 72
John Everall 53
Frances Higginson 70
Edward Higginson 35
John Bryan 76
Edward Beavan 50
Charlotte Speake 44
John Speake 12
George Speake 11
Ellen Speake 5
Albert Speake 3
John Burgoyne 79
Caroline Janet 62
Richard Jones 77
William Wood 55
Elizabeth Wood 49
Emma Wood 11
Amelia Ward 11
Esther Ward 11
Saml. Bishop 77
Elizabeth Anson 32
George Anson 9
Ernest Anson 5
William Gwilliam 73
Ann Parton 16
William Owen 83
Humphrey Preece 69
George Langford 9
Richard Powell 79
Charles Evans 15
Arthur Jukes 16
Samuel Jukes 9
John Fewtrell 68
Alfred Heapy 22
Mary Edwards 51
Ann Matthews 76
William Jordan 25
Edwin Thomas 10
Henry Thomas 8
John Griffiths 80
Hannah Howells 27
John Howells
Catherine Yapp 84
Alice Cadwallader 5
William Stubbs 71
Sarah Hinton 72
Thomas Jackson 80
Martha Jackson 75
Eliza Davies 21
William Davies
Emma Norgrove 26 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Unmarr
Beatrice Norgrove <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Richard Andrews 44
George Price 16
Eliza Breeze 21
Joseph Oliver 44
James Moore 71
Mary Ann James 21
Sarah James
John Bytheway 68
Francis Pritchard 76
John Dodd 81
Richard Watkins 84
Joseph Sayce 68
Joseph Griffiths 11
Chas. Taylor 69
Mary Jennings 62
Richard Jennings 26
John Watkins 74
William Evans 67
Clara Pearce 23



Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2614; Folio: 89; Page: 29; GSU roll: 1341629.



Saved to Public Family Trees
Emma in Norgrove Family Tree
Saved by peternorgrove on Sep 01, 2009

Emma in Pugh Family Tree
Saved by DeniseShanahan49 on Jun 09, 2009

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 2 Feb 2010 16:59

Hayley

This is very unfair of you - Lilian's birth is on your OTHER thread....................along with BOTH of her marriages

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 2 Feb 2010 16:57

Hve tried a 1911 search, but no luck at all for some reason. Vaguely wondering if she was taken in by someone and took on their name, hence you thinking her maiden name was different? Just speculating really.
Jan

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 2 Feb 2010 16:56

Sorry made a mistake childrens MMN was Norgrove it was the district that was Madeley!

Irene

Irene Report 2 Feb 2010 16:56

Both marriages are shown on Ancestry she married Albert Tranter 1921 he died Madeley1928 she married Joseph W I Pugh 1928 Madeley.
Do you have the names of all the children as they will be on Ancestry if you need them. Irene