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Edward Oddy b 10 Apr 1836 to Jesse and Betty, in Pudsey, Yorkshire
m Ann born Overton, Wakefield, 1836

(I haven’t found a marriage for them, but assume from the fact that her unmarried sister Caroline Walker was staying with them at the time of the 1861 census, that Ann’s maiden name was Walker - in which case she is the daughter of Charles and Maria).

I have all I need BACKWARDS from here, plus a fair amount of detail about Edward’s life (he did very well in business as a cloth merchant, owned one of the smartest houses in town, but then went bankrupt, spent a couple of weeks in prison for assault, stood for election as a Conservative councillor etc. etc.) but I am scratching my head over his children!!

On 1871 census they have one child - Catherine (b 1862, Bramley, Yorkshire) at home with them in Bramley. I have no other record of Catherine. It looks most likely to me that she wasn’t their daughter at all - she isn’t baptised in the same place as their other children, nor educated with them, nor is she buried with her parents.

However, from www.calverley.info (local parish records site) I have baptisms for three further children, as follows:

Clara (18 Feb 1863, Bramley, Yorkshire)
Maude (6 May 1864, Bramley, Yorkshire)
Charles Albert Edward (3 Jan 1866, Bramley, Yorkshire) - this name is from local parish records, although FreeBMD has him down as Edward Charles Albert. At the time of his baptism in
Yorkshire, their abode is listed as “London” - which seems unlikely but not impossible.

For a long time I couldn’t find these three children on the 1871 census but eventually found them on Ancestry (mistranscribed as DOTY) at a boarding school in Headingley, Leeds. At this point the boy is listed as “Albert Edward”.

Parents Ann and Edward both died young (in 1874 and 1879 respectively).

I know what happened to Maude next - having trained as a milliner, she married Fearnley Bell and was eventually buried with her parents, her husband and her own children in Bramley.

BUT I cannot find either Clara or Charles/Albert/Edward on subsequent censuses. Anyone feel like taking on the challenge?

EDIT I should have said that there is a submitted record for Clara's death on LDS (see Ann of Green Gables posts below) but that I have seen nothing concrete to confirm that this is "our" Clara.

Clara Pedigree



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Event(s):
Birth: 10 FEB 1863 Bramley, , Yorkshire, England

Christening:
Death: 23 SEP 1892
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Parents:
Father: Edward Oddy Family
Mother: Mrs. Annie Oddy

Clara Oddy Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 10 FEB 1863 Pudsey, Yorkshire, England

Christening:
Death: 23 SEP 1892

Clara ODDY Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 1868 Pudsey, Yorkshire, England

Christening:
Death: 12 APR 1876

Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Seth ODDY Family
Mother: Frances CARTER

Thanks AOGG. I have seen the death record for Clara (first two of your replies) on LDS but it is, I believe a submitted record and I haven't seen anything concrete to back it up.

The third Clara was Edward's niece (Seth is Edward's brother).

Births Sep 1861 (>99%)
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ODDY Catherine Hunslet 9b 224



(Hunslet covered Bramley in 1861)


Would at least show who parents were.

Thanks for that one Choccy - worth looking into.

probably mis-transcribed


Marriages Dec 1860 (>99%)
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******Addy Edward Pontefract 9c 83
Perkins William Pontefract 9c 83
Smith Sarah Pontefract 9c 83
******WALKER Ann Pontefract 9c 83

Ha! I will definitely be sending for that one!

might be worth looking at -


England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
Name: Catherine Oddy
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1865
Age: 25
Father's Name: Edward Oddy
Spouse's name: Frederick Myers
Spouse's Age: 32
Spouse's Father's Name: Stephen Myers
Marriage Date: 11 Sep 1890
Marriage Place: Habergham Eaves, Lancashire, England



Source Citation: Place: Habergham Eaves, Lancashire, England; Date Range: 1875 - 1900; Film Number: 1526143.





1891 England Census
Name: Catherine Myers
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Frederick
Gender: Female
Where born: Bramley, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Habergham Eaves
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Burnley
Sub-registration district: Burnley
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick Myers 33
Catherine Myers 25
Charles E C Oddiy 5 (Oddy on original) - step-son - born Leeds




Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3367; Folio 79; Page 41; GSU roll: 6098477.

Well Choccy, just wish I'd put this on here for you a bit sooner! Will go and check this one out right now!

Chris x

Don't know where these two sons came from !


Perhaps they are sons of Frederick and not Catherine. No sign of Charles Oddy.




1901 England Census
Name: Catherine Mayers
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Frederick
Gender: Female
Where born: Bramley, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Burnley
Ecclesiastical parish: Habergham Eaves St Matthew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Burnley
Sub-registration district: West Ward
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 163
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick Mayers 43
Catherine Mayers 38
Reginald T Mayers 18
Cecil T Mayers 15




Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3870; Folio: 136; Page: 26.

Choccy, would the England & Wales Marriage Index show whether or not the bride's father was deceased?

Think you'd have to get the certificate to find out whether Edward was deceased, and there again it might or might not say!

I was just looking at the 1901 census with the same confusion, Choccy! I think your assumption must be right, that they are Frederick's children ... think I'll just look for them in 1891 and see where they were!

EDIT I can't find them!! Aagh ... the plot thickens ...

This gets better - by time of 1911 census Reginald is "Reginald Frederick Tomlinson, stepson" ... so in 1901 "T" stood for Tomlinson ... but at what point was Catherine a Tomlinson if she married Frederick as Oddy??

They state they have had NO children born alive to this marriage.

On the plus side, her age (given as 49) means that if this IS my Catherine, she is finally telling the truth about her birthdate!

totally confused as well !!


think this is 'Reggie' in 1891 -


1891 England Census
Name: Reginald F Tomlinson
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Whittington
Ecclesiastical parish: Whittington
Town: Whittington
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub-registration district: Chesterfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline S Crookes 50
Elizabeth Needham 77
Reginald F Tomlinson 8
Hannah Syddall 17




Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2766; Folio 58; Page 1; GSU roll: 6097876.

On the 1891 census the only Reginald F Tomlinson born in Leeds in abt 1883 is a boarder in Whittington, Derbyshire. At present, I'm not seeing his brother anywhere!

EDIT Sorry, our posts crossed there. Perhaps in this instance "stepson" means "adopted"?

I am really clutching at straws here - Cecil is the same age as Charles E C Oddy - could there have been some mistranscribing? Doesn't explain the sudden appearance of the "T" in 1901 though.

Can't see Cecil in 1891.

My thoughts are Reginald and Cecil are brothers, and possibly Charles Oddy was Catherine's illegitimate son.

I should have stuck to looking for one of the other Oddy siblings!