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Carla

Carla Report 14 Feb 2010 10:12

would some one please be kind enough to point me in the right direction , as i seem to have come to a dead end . i am trying to locate my greatgrand father however there seems to be no records of him , where should i look if he is not on the census ? i habve tried to locate him through war records etc not sure where to go next any ideas please . thankyou .

Julie

Julie Report 14 Feb 2010 10:18

He might have been mistranscribed on the census

ElizabethK

ElizabethK Report 14 Feb 2010 10:18

Carla

Put his details (birth year-place and anything else you know) and someone will help and advise you how to proceed

Good luck !

Carla

Carla Report 14 Feb 2010 10:23

Thankyou for your help. his name is richard tapper and he married elizabeth tapper lived in london and had four children , i think he died in 1905 , but as i said i cant seem to find out any more as i am trying to trace his side of the family not sure where to look now , i dont know where he was born unfortunatley i assume he was born around 1870s ish as he wife was 29 in1901 but he is not on that census ? thankyou

Gee

Gee Report 14 Feb 2010 10:29

Do you have a date of birth for him or roughly when he married?

No death for 1905 is showing

Ginny
x

Carla

Carla Report 14 Feb 2010 10:37

Hi i think he would of been married in 1885, just guessing i know his wife was 29 in 1901 and her name was elizabeth tapper once married and i was told he was a book maker if this is any help? thankyou however i have been told that my great grandmother remarried after his death .

Julie

Julie Report 14 Feb 2010 10:38

If this is your Elizabeth on the 1901

Elizabeth Tapper
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Devizes, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Devizes St James
Ecclesiastical parish: Southbroom St James
Town: Devizes
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Devizes
Sub-registration district: Devizes
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 57
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Tapper 29
William Tapper 6
Kate Maslen 20


Then this is her marriage

Marriages Dec 1893 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Evans Ernest John Devizes 5a 187
Harding Alice Maud Devizes 5a 187
>>>>Maslen Elizabeth Devizes 5a 187
>>>Tapper Frank Devizes 5a 187

Julie

Julie Report 14 Feb 2010 10:41

Or is it this one

Elizth A T Tapper
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation: Head
Mother's Name: Agnes A
Gender: Female
Where born: Greenwich, London, England

Civil parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch North Brixton
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Kennington Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 267
Household Members: Name Age
Elizth A T Tapper 29
Agnes A Tapper 64
Eliza F Willmont 33


Carla

Carla Report 14 Feb 2010 10:41

Hi no sorry her children were dudley , sidney , clive , winifred and clive tapper , sorry should have put this on before hand thank you x

Julie

Julie Report 14 Feb 2010 10:45

So is the last lady i have put on her.....cos she is single and Agnes is her Mum

Carla

Carla Report 14 Feb 2010 10:47

Yes sorry just realised , thank you for all your help.

Gee

Gee Report 14 Feb 2010 11:01

Julie

You running around in the buff has confused me!

Who's Frank Tapper? Werent we looking for Richard?

Gin
x

Julie

Julie Report 14 Feb 2010 11:03

Here are the childrens births..if you haven't already you'll need to get 1 for their Mums maiden name......if you have 1 already came ypu post her maiden name....do be able to help you you need to give as much info as you have

Births Mar 1890 (>99%)
Tapper Winifred Lambeth 1d 538

Births Sep 1897 (>99%)
Tapper Richard Dudley Lambeth 1d 480

Births Mar 1900 (>99%)
Tapper Sidney Clive Lambeth 1d 480

Julie

Julie Report 14 Feb 2010 11:05

Giiny

Me running around full stop has confused me lol

Seeing as Carla never posted all her info i just posted the 2 Elizabeths i could see age 29 in 1901

Now we know neither 1 was her as the 1st 1 was married to a Frank & the 2nd 1 is single

Susan

Susan Report 14 Feb 2010 11:08

Think this is the family in 1901 Mis transcribed as Topper.

1901 England Census
about Elizabeth Topper
Name: Elizabeth Topper
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Mayfair, London, England

Civil parish: Brixton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael Stockwell
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 2 Lorn rd

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: Married

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Kennington Second
Elizabeth Topper 29
Winifred Topper 6 bn Staffordshire <<<<
Dudley Topper 4 bn Camberwell <<<<
Sidney Topper 1 bn Brixton <<<<
Mary Drew 20 Servant <<<<
Alice Waight 15 Servant <<<<


Gee

Gee Report 14 Feb 2010 11:09

Thanks Julie, I thought I was going nuts and re read it about 5 times!!!

Carla

can you post all the info you have as it's all a bit 'disjointed' at the moment

What makes you say that Richard Tapper married an Elizabeth? Theres no record showing for this?

Ginny
x

Edit;; Brill Susan....now wheres Richard!

Carla

Carla Report 14 Feb 2010 11:22

Hi yes thankyou,my father told me his grandfather was richard tapper so i have assumed this was who i should be looking for , however as my father does not have much info it could be the wrong name , not sure i have any more info to go on , the people who susan have found are the family who i have traced but cant seem to go any further , i know that dudley tapper never had any children , sidney is my grandfather and moved to birmingham and had five sons , winifred had two children but i dont know any thing about clive. i was told that my greatgrand father died in 1905 , and that he was a bookie of some sort? .thankyou x

Susan

Susan Report 14 Feb 2010 12:23

I think Sidney is Sydney Clive the same person, there does not appear to be a Clive.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Sidney Clive Tapper
Name: Sidney Clive Tapper
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Lambeth
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 48

Carla

Carla Report 14 Feb 2010 12:30

Yes that could be possible , i did quiz my father about that as it did sound a little strange , once again thanks for all your help , it is really puzzling me as to who my great grand father was though , just wish my family had a few more bits of info as i know that would really help. x

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 14 Feb 2010 12:39

It is the right year for the birth of their first child and could be mistranscribed.


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Richard Tipper
Name: Richard Tipper
Year of Registration: 1895
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Islington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 459


>>>>>>> Elizabeth Ann Hales 1895 Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex

Mary Zilpah Housley 1895 Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex

>>>>>>Richard Tipper 1895 Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex

John William Walton 1895 Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex