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Many fostered children were relatives, but I can't see anything that connects these Keatleys. No Carters in there.

Oh ****, it's another ****** Jessie Tedstone. He says the birth date is 19th September, and 1892. (Ignore if you don't know what I'm talking about - another problem on another thread).

Simon, if you think that's his birthdate, how about these (from Ancestry):

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Joseph Carter
Name: Joseph Carter
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Islington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 216 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Joseph Carter
Name: Joseph Carter
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 943 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Joseph Carter
Name: Joseph Carter
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Islington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 218 (click to see others on page)

Not sure why you think the Poplar one is more likely, but I think Ancestry came up with some that freebmd didn't (?).

He was 9 in 1901 and 19 in 1911, so late 1891 fits.

I knew you'd beat me to it Janey - but yours wasn't up here when I posted mine!

With a birthdate in mid-Sept I also would not rule out a fourth quarter registration of the birth, whatever year it was.

So that throws this one into the mix possibly:

Births Dec 1891
Carter Joseph Stanford Hackney 1b 513

and the good thing about that one, if it happened to be right, would be that Stanford could possibly be the father's surname if the parents' weren't married.


Madmeg, are our Carters related? ;)

Janey, I ain't got no Carters in my family, not unless you go back to 1792 in Sandbach, Cheshire. Heck, tell a lie, I've got one in Northamptonshire! Will pm you.

Oops, it was Glitter Baby had unrelated Carters. ;)

But maybe thee and me do have after all! I mean, how many Carters could there be in Northamptonshire ... hahahaha!

1901 don't know if this helps to" rule out" any birth indexes but there are these searching "Joseph Carter dob 1891+/-1yr London"
Joseph Carter mother Mary A abt 1892 Battersea, London, England Son Battersea, London
Joseph S Carter parents Robert J,
Frances S abt 1892 Hackney, London, England Son Hackney, London
Joseph T Carter parents John G,
Eliza J abt 1892 Greenwich, Kent, England Son Greenwich, London

1901 and these for Middlesex
Joseph W Carter parents John J,
Mary A abt 1891 Tottenham, Middlesex, England Son Edmonton, Middlesex
Joseph Carter parents Frederick,
Caroline abt 1892 Islington Son Tottenham, Middlesex

death index for 1
Name: Joseph Carter
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 0
District: Islington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 158

Name: Joseph Carter
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 0
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 550


Name: Joseph George Carter
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 0
District: Woolwich
County: Greater London, Kent, London
Volume: 1d
Page: 844


Name: Joseph Frederick Carter
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 0
District: West Ham
County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 4a
Page: 8