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still trying to find info on the parents of mary ward born about 1895 carlise

Is this the right person here?

1901 census transcription details for: Rickergate Barley Stack Lane, Carlisle Rickergate
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 4867 Folio: 87 Page: 22

Reg. District: Carlisle Sub District: St Mary
Parish: Carlisle Rickergate Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District: St Pauls City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Rickergate Barley Stack Lane, Carlisle Rickergate
County: Cumberland
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
MCCANN, Bridgett Head Widow F 56 1845
Ireland
WARD, Lizzie Daughter Married F 26 1875
Scotland
MCCANN, Mary E Daughter Single F 19 1882 Packer At Biscuit Works
Carlisle
Cumberland
MCCANN, Sarah L Grand Child F 8 1893
Carlisle
Cumberland
WARD, Mary Grand Child F 6 1895
Carlisle
Cumberland
WARD, Alice Grand Child F 1 1900
Carlisle
Cumberland




1891 census transcription details for: 4, Dudsons Court, Rickergate, Rickergate, Carlisle
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 4288 Folio: 89 Page: 3

Reg. District: Carlisle Sub District: St Mary
Parish: Rickergate Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District: St Mary City/Municipal Borough: Carlisle
Address: 4, Dudsons Court, Rickergate, Rickergate, Carlisle
County: Cumberland
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
MCCANN, Bridget Head Widow F 47 1844 Charwoman
Ireland
MCCANN, Sarah Daughter Single F 24 1867 Charwoman
Scotland
MCCANN, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 18 1873 Charwoman
Scotland
MCCANN, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 11 1880 Scholar
Carlisle
Cumberland
MCCANN, Mary Ellen Daughter F 9 1882 Scholar
Carlisle
Cumberland

i think that is her but it says on the cencus grand child and it also has elizabeth ward married do you think this is marys mum and where has her father at any help will be gratfully accepted

This looks like it could be the marriage of Elizabeth, the daughter.

Marriages Sep 1894 (>99%)
Ballard James Carlisle 10b 780 Scan available - click to view
>>McCann Elizabeth Carlisle 10b 780 Scan available - click to view
Robinson Margaret Carlisle 10b 780 Scan available - click to view
>>Ward Joseph Carlisle 10b 780 Scan available - click to view

thats great do you think they are marys parents does it say what happened to joseph ward thanks

Still looking for him He could have been working away. The only way to be sure is to get a birth certificate for Mary or Alice, who seems to be her sister.

This is them in 1911 so mum has remarried.


1911 census transcription details for: 5 Stordy's Square King Street Carlisle
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN31306 RG78PN1796 RD574 SD2 ED3 SN35

Reg. District: Carlisle Sub District: St Cuthbert
Parish: Carlisle Enum. District: 3
Address: 5 Stordy's Square King Street Carlisle
County: Cumberland
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
DODD, James Head Married M 40 1871 Plasters Labourer Carlisle Cumberland
DODD, Elizabeth Wife Married F 38 1873 Carlisle Cumberland
WARD, Mary Daughter Single F 16 1895 Spinner In Factory Carlisle Cumberland
WARD, Alice Daughter F 11 1900 Carlisle Cumberland
WARD, Irving Son M 12 1899 Carlisle Cumberland
WARD, Joseph Son M 8 1903 Gateshead
WARD, David Son M 6 1905 Carlisle Cumberland
WARD, Elizabeth Daughter F 2 1909 Carlisle Cumberland
WARD, Mary Niece Single F 16 1895 Carpet Weaver Carlisle


They had been married 1 year and this is the closest marriage I'm finding. Perhaps the end number has been mistranscribed?

Marriages Sep 1910 (>99%)
Arnold Walter J Carlisle 10b 936 Scan available - click to view
Davis Jane Carlisle 10b 936
Moore George Carlisle 10b 936 Scan available - click to view
Muldoon Esther K Carlisle 10b 936 Scan available - click to view
>>Ward Elizabeth Carlisle 10b 936


Marriages Sep 1910 (>99%)
>>Dodd James Carlisle 10b 938 Scan available - click to view
Faulder Jane H Carlisle 10b 938 Scan available - click to view
Smith George Carlisle 10b 938

thats right as i know she remarried and the name was dodd but she had a child on that cencus form born in 1909 and that cencus was 1911 so he must have died or split up around 1910 you have done so well thanks for your help would be good if i could find out joseph ward and if he died or not

try looking on FreeBMD for a death for Joseph Ward

There you are on freebmd. The marriages were all there too.

Deaths Mar 1908 (>99%)
WARD Joseph 36 Carlisle 10b 388

thats great thank you so much for all your help

was there a date of birth for joseph ward

Name: Joseph Ward
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Year of Registration: 1908
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 36
District: Carlisle
County: Cumbria, Cumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 388


This is a complete stab in the dark for him. You really need to buy some certificates as there are no census records of him with Elizabeth, so he could be from anywhere.



1901 census transcription details for: 21, Garden Street, Carlisle Botchergate
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 4864 Folio: 152 Page: 30

Reg. District: Carlisle Sub District: St Cuthbert
Parish: Carlisle Botchergate Enum. District: 7
Ecclesiastical District: St John City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 21, Garden Street, Carlisle Botchergate
County: Cumberland
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
TIDSWELL, William Head Married M 66 1835 Fish & Potatoe Merchant (Fried)
Denholme
Yorkshire
TIDSWELL, Mary A Wife Married F 62 1839
Bradford
Yorkshire
WARD, Joseph Boarder Single M 28 1873 Assistant Fried Fish & Potatoe Shop
Bradford
Yorkshire
SUGDEN, Joseph Grand Child Single M 12 1889
Bradford
Yorkshire

Christine - this is now VERY naughty !!!

You have started yet another thread when you have all this info already on your others>

The latest one was:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1204452&px=3

which you have posted on today so it isn't that you can't find them.

There are others too!

If you want help stick to the one thread - do not keep starting new ones on the same person or people will lose patience and stop helping you.

Dea x

so sorry just new at this i did not know sorry dea

trying to find out more about bridgett mc cann we know she was born in ireland about 1845 and i think she must have lived in scotland as that is where her daughter lizzie was born in 1875 any info you can give me will be appreciated

This is Bridget on 1891 - she should be in Carlisle on 1881 according to children's births but I can't find her as yet:

1891 England Census
about Bridget McCann
Name: Bridget McCann
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Rickergate
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Carlisle
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street Address: 4 Dudsons Court


Registration district: Carlisle
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Bridget McCann 47 wid.
Sarah McCann 24 b Scotland
Elizabeth McCann 18 b Scotland
Mary Ann McCann 11 b Carlisle
Mary Ellen McCann 9 b Carlisle



Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4288; Folio 89; Page 3; GSU roll: 6099398.

Have to go out for a while but will take another look later.

Dea x

ok thanks dea

hi still trying to find out about joseph ward we know he was married to elizabeth mccann and he died in 1908 in carlise any help would be great

hi still trying to find out about joseph ward i know he married eliabeth mccann and he died in carlise in 1908 please can anyone help thanks

Possible birth for Joseph

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Joseph Ward
Name: Joseph Ward
Year of Registration: 1872
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Wigton
County: Cumbria, Cumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 495