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England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Henry Dyson
Name: Henry Dyson
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Stockport
County: Cheshire, Lancashire
Volume: 8a
Page: 89 (click to see others on page)

Married Jane Dover.

I can confirm the birth details for Cecil Henry Chiverton, but can also add that he died in 2004 and his birth date was 17 Apr 1920.
Ken

Oh quite possibly a boundary change, I didn't even bother to check. I well know where Reddish is, right on the border of Lancashire/Cheshire.

That is the right Laura Dyson, I am sure.

Yep, I know Strines very well. Nothing there but a string of (nice) houses and what used to be the Calico Printers Works. You didn't by chance know a family called Bissett who lived there did you? I went to primary school with a Graham Bissett, born about 1952. Lived in Strines.

What's even odder, Meg, is that the 1911 census match for Laura came up when I asked for "Cheshire" - and she is living in Reddish - but it says she is born Reddish, Lancashire. Maybe some boundary change during her lifetime? Or maybe her family were just rubbish at geography! Actually I suspect what happened is that her dad (who WAS born in Lancashire) just got a bit lazy with the form and "dittoed" the Lancashire. I'll take a look at the original.

Hmm - yes, he HAD used a fair number of ditto marks but has repeated Reddish, Lancashire once or twice. Just rubbish at geography then!

I have also double checked and she IS the only Laura Dyson of ANY age in Cheshire - so whilst I agree everything should be double checked with certificates, I'm placing my money on this being her.

BTW, my mother in law lives in Strines, which I guess you must know. And she used to run a tea room in Marple!

Now getting stuck on Laura Dyson.

Think you need her marriage cert ascertain her father.

1871 England Census
about Joseph Wagstaffe
Name: Joseph Wagstaffe
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Stockport, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Reddish
Ecclesiastical parish: Heaton Reddish
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Stockport
Sub-registration district: Stockport First
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household schedule number: 54
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Wagstaffe 33
Jane Wagstaffe 32
John Wagstaffe 14
Elizabeth A Wagstaffe 11
Sarah Wagstaffe 7
Joseph Wagstaffe 5
Eliza Wagstaffe 1

Ancestry tree with same family.

Child Jessie b 1899, d 1903.

Joseph married Mary Whittle, Christ Church, Heaton Norris, 1893.

Marriages Mar 1893 (>99%)

Wagstaffe Joseph Stockport 8a 32
Whittle Mary Stockport 8a 32

1901 England Census
about Joseph Wagstaffe
Name: Joseph Wagstaffe
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Redditch, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Stockport
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Stockport
Sub-registration district: Heaton Norris
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 146
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Wagstaffe 35
Mary Wagstaffe 33
James Wagstaffe 7
Lily Wagstaffe 8 months

Reddish and Romiley are adjacent. Odd that Reddish is classed as Lancashire. Maybe my history of the area ain't so tip-top. Stockport is Cheshire. They are all in the same area anyway.

Ooh, that is great news to me Rachael. Bored out of my skull at the moment, and I live in the Stockport area.

I would love to take over, but work is preventing me from doing too much at the moment.

Your help is gratefully appreciated as without it I would be getting nowhere.

Thankyou

And a James Wagstaff of a similar age is in the same area:

Person: WAGSTAFF, James
Address: 17 Upper Brook St Stockport
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WAGSTAFF, Joseph Head Married M 45 1866 Back Fenter Calico Print Works Lans Reddish VIEW
WAGSTAFF, Mary Wife Married
18 years F 43 1868 Lans Stockport VIEW
WAGSTAFF, James Son Single M 17 1894 Felt Hay Planker Lans Reddish VIEW
WAGSTAFF, Lily Daughter F 10 1901 School Lans Stockport VIEW
WAGSTAFF, Ida Daughter F 7 1904 School Lans Stockport VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
21371 Reference:
RG14PN21371 RG78PN1271 RD443 SD4 ED23 SN57

Registration District:
Stockport Sub District:
Stockport First EnumerationDistrict:
23 Parish:
Stockport

Address:
17 Upper Brook St Stockport County:
Cheshire

This is the only Laura Dyson in Cheshire in 1911 census - and it just so happens to be in Stockport:

Person: DYSON, Laura
Address: 11 Moston Street Reddish

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DYSON, Henry Head Married M 43 1868 Operative Cotton Spinner Lancashire Levenshulme VIEW
DYSON, Jane Wife Married
19 years F 42 1869 Lancashire Trestone VIEW
DYSON, Laura Daughter Single F 17 1894 Cotton Operative Little Piecer Lancashire Reddish VIEW
DYSON, Joseph Son Single M 16 1895 Cotton Operative Little Piecer Lancashire Reddish VIEW
DYSON, Elsie May Daughter Single F 13 1898 Scholl And Cotton Operative Little Piecer Lancashire Reddish VIEW
DYSON, Hilda Daughter Single F 12 1899 Lancashire Reddish VIEW
DYSON, James Frederick Son Single M 10 1901 Lancashire Reddish VIEW
DYSON, Dorothy Jane Son Single F 6 1905 Lancashire Reddish VIEW
DYSON, Frank Son Single M 2 1909 Lancashire Reddish VIEW
DYSON, Authar Son Single M 0 (7 MONTH) 1911 Lancashire Reddish VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
21412 Reference:
RG14PN21412 RG78PN1273 RD443 SD6 ED11 SN79

Registration District:
Stockport Sub District:
Stockport Third EnumerationDistrict:
11 Parish:
Reddish

Address:
11 Moston Street Reddish County:
Cheshire

I forgot to look for that spouse to James Wagstaff - she is Laura Dyson.

Having gladly found all that, do you want to now research further yourself, cos I don't want to spoil your fun. Or would you like me (and others who are no doubt keeping an eye on your thread) to carry on with more?

Best wishes

Margaret

Yep, here is Cecil's birth on the Isle of Wight:

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Cecil H Chiverton
Name: Cecil H Chiverton
Mother's Maiden Surname: Brown
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1920
Registration district: I Wight
Registration county: Sussex, Isle of Wight
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 1343 (click to see others on page)

Thinking again, you probably don't need Hilda's birth cert. It seems pretty obvious who her parents were.

The marriage of Hilda and Cecil will give you his father, but hang on, cos I might find that in the Isle of Wight.

This is the marriage of Hilda and Cecil:

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Hilda Wagstaff
Name: Hilda Wagstaff
Spouse Surname: Chiverton
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1945
Registration district: Stockport
Registration county (inferred): Cheshire
Volume Number: 8a
Page Number: 44
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

Spouse is Cecil H Chiverton.

He might have been from the Isle of Wight, but they didn't marry there.

Brilliant, thanks for your help

Rachael, you have misunderstood what I sent you. This is the likely birth of Hilda Wagstaff, with mothers maiden name Dyson. Seems 99.9% likely to be her. The registration of a birth would not include details of anything other than the child's parents and possible address at birth (thought that might be a hospital).

It is nothing to do with who else is living there.

Using what I have posted, you can send for this birth certificate and determine who her parents were, and perhaps where they lived at the time, though this might just say "Romiley".

Oops I posted the birth twice, but also a likely marriage of a Wagstaff to a Dyson, but to be sure it is the right couple, you would need to buy Hilda's birth certificate first.