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Silly me, I am replying to a thread nearly a year old.

Steve, no idea what is happening with your Apple.

I have come across this family before. Is it another thread of yours, William. It is this Campion name I recognise.

Have you tried looking in Search Record on here? Or similar on Ancestry. I just recognise the names.

every time i try to access a link on this site it comes up with the message "BAD REQUEST (REQUEST HEADER TOO LONG)" does anybody know what's going on?
I use an apple mac .

Steve

Hi Margaret,You keep some late hours.
Interesting family!!!!!! Very annoying !!!! Like Maureen said "it's driving me to drink"
I am working on this family as my first husband was George Bradshaw son of the second Joseph Cecil b.1892 and I have three Bradshaw children.
I sent and received two wrong certs.so I know it's not the obvious Joseph born 1/7/1856 in (sub.Dist) Didsbury 8c 433.Love Dorothy

3.21 am off to bed. Will have another look tomorrow.

Very interesting family.

Hard work!

Love

Margaret

HI ALL, who have been done any research on Joseph Cecil Bradshaw b.(c).1856 for me..I have gone around and around, over and over any and all information.Trawled through numerous forums and whatever I could find.I just can't think of any more places to try.I have previously posted under HELP and BRADSHAW. Everybody gets as far Back as Joseph Cecil and Emily Slinger in the 1881 census.I have a birth cert for their son Joseph Cecil b.27/1/1892 in Withington and a marriage cert for him.(J.C.2).Salford.
It seems to point to a connection to the Champion/Bagnall Bradshaws as they were all Artists/photopainters and lived in the same area.I have joined findmypast but no positive results.I found a William Bradshaw portrait painter but that seems like no connection. It appears that Eliza Bagnall Bradshaw (and probably her husband) were from Ireland.I tried to find a clue there.Also found a Bert Champion Bradshaw b.1863.
What do you think?????? Dorothy

This one is driving me to drink...(OK-it's 5 am here and grapefruit juice).
I'm wondering how to prove that Joseph (pick your own middle name) was the son of George Bagnall Bradshaw.
Maybe a will??
From FMPast
Index to death duty registers 1796 - 1903
1895
Bradshaw George Bagnall Burnley 25 Mar M J B Bradshaw PR 2172 A
(not good at reading these,so any help would be wonderful)

Ancestry Deaths
Name: George Bagnall Bradshaw
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Year of Registration: 1895
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 65
District: Burnley
County: Lancashire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 8e
Page: 199

Maureen

Dear William-Dorothy :-)

There is no way you have offended anyone, I'm sorry if I gave you that impression. It's just that if you already know stuff, and people go looking to find what you already have, it's a bit irritating. And we'd rather spend our time trying to help you find what you DON'T already have.

And it is perfectly sensible of you to try other sources to help, such as the Salford site. I just thought I might have found you a good connection - and it was you all the time!

So I am not mad at you (oops, perhaps I should amend my name to Pottymeg, which is what I meant). Far from it after your apology that really wasn't needed. You haven't upset anybody, I am sure.

I haven't absorbed what everyone else has found on the family since my last post, will do that after I've eaten (nearly 8.30 p.m. in England). And I've just thought, my next door neighbours are both artists/photographers from the Manchester area, so I'll be paying them a visit tomorrow.

Best wishes

(Not at all) Madmeg

I have just been going through all the posts again,I think you were on the right track Maureen when you backtracked Edith Hogg the niece.
Mary's information re the Slingers seems to fit.That is Jane the daughter of James and Jane Slinger-Jane is Emily Jane who marries Joseph Cecil Bradshaw.
Dorothy

Hi Mary, Here I am awake at our time 1.30am as I can't sleep thinking of the people that I have unwittingly upset.
I really do appreciate any and all help that is given me.

Yes is does seem as if Joseph and Charles may be brothers.
I am asking for help as being a pensioner(nearly 70) I cannot join a lot of sites.
Thank you Mary b Dorothy

I think Joseph C 1861 is son of George bagnall Bradshaw born @ 1819 in Hanley Staff and Mary Dorothea (Champion) born @ 1829 either in Ireland or Salford her mum had the same name was with them in 1861

George was in the photograhy business as was his son george 1851 London and Champion 1856 manchester.
He also went under the name Charles Champion Bradshaw he married Emily Jane Parker late 1881 in Chorlton.

1891 Joseph C and Emily J lived in Withington district 15 image 29.

1891 Charles (Champion) lived also in Withington district 7 Image 10.

If you google Bradshaw artists and photographers,ninth result on first page is about Charles C Bradshaw born 1856 who looks like the brother of your Joseph.

Maryb

Your welcome Dorothy.

Maryb

Hello Mary,Thank you for that information.I will see if I can dig up anything in that direction.Dorothy

I think this is Emily.

1861 James Slinger born 1829 Burton in Kendal Westmorland.
Jane 1828 Bolton le Moors Lancs
Jane born Darlington/Stockton on tees 1856 (Emily?)
Mary 1849 Lancs
James 1854 Lancs
Elizabth 1858 Stockton
Elizabeth Ann 1860 Scarborough.
1871 Jane 1829 widow
Hannah
Elizabeth Ann 1858
John Henry 1863 Scarborough
Catherine Leah 1865 Scarborough.

1871 Jane Slinger 1856 Stockton on tees a servant in Scarborough
for Fred bell born 1830 Stockton on tees he was a Carver and Guilder.

1891 Joseph C Bradshaw
Emily born STOCKTON about 1859.

So is Jane 1856 the Emily Jane married to Joseph C Bradshaw.

I still can't find theire marriage though.

Maryb

Edit just looked at original 1911 it looks to me it says Seasborough Yorks not Scarborough.

I think Seasborough is near Redcar/ northumberland/Durham area?

Dorothy,
I don't blame you at all for giving this one another go. Your wall seems to be made of "foam rubber" rather than brick.
The Bradshaws ( the Champion group) weren't registered with those wonderful middle names were they? And the Slingers really seem to be "yours".
Maureen

Hello SnowyJen,MaureeinN.Y. Thank you both so much for trying to help and I am sorry for Not telling you what information that I had.I do really appreciate your help.I have been trying for some time to find out information on this Joseph Cecil Bradshaw.Brick wall.
Regards Dorothy-Australia

Hello Madmeg, I am so sorry if I have done the wrong thing.I have not mean't to offend anyone(least of all those who are trying to help)Yes, it is me on the Salford site.And you will find me on a lot of other places too.I am just trying all out to try to find just where this first Joseph Cecil came from.I thought I had found them being married at St.James Didsbury.Too many Bradshaws.I thought the same as other people that he was the Joseph with the Bagnall Champion names.But no.
Madmeg ,please don't be mad at me I need your help.
Regards Dorothy Hollings-Australia(subscription taken out in husbands name)

http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/tourism/pgrphrs/pgrhrs.htm

Bradshaw John Champion, 1847-
One of main supporters in the early days of the Arts & Crafts movement on the Island (along with J.M.Nicholson & R. Wane) - a copy of his painting of Douglas Market, which includes a self portrait, is in Journal Manx Museum iv #58 p104 March 1939)
1881c: a John C. Bradshaw, Artist (Portrait & Landscape), is shown as a lodger at Margaret Gelling's boarding house at 13 Mount Havelock
1881: Mount Havelock
1883: Mount Havelock
1887: 40 Finch road
1889: 40 Finch road
1893 40 Finch road, Photographic studio now conducted by Mr. L.B. Bradshaw (Brown's Guide, 1893)
1894: 40 Finch road

Very interesting. Not the one who is the father of "our" Joseph Cecil, but probably related to the family in Cheetham, and perhaps related to Joseph Cecil.

We need to find this marriage of Emily Slinger. Married for 20 years in 1911, and according to the above post married in Didsbury.

Is this you, William? Found on

http://services.salford.gov.uk/forum/forumposts.asp?forum=22&id=66271&p=3

Posted by: marsal on 17/12/2009 at 01:44
I am looking for connections to Joseph Cecil Bradshaw b. 1/7/1856 married Emily Slinger @ St.James Didsbury.Can anyone help me?

Dorothy -Australia

If it's not you, I would reply to it pronto.

This is the 1861 census for the family that Maureen found in 1871:

1861 England Census
about Champion J Jan Bradshaw
Name: Champion J Jan Bradshaw
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Bagnall
Mother's Name: Mary Dorothea
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheetham, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Cheetham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Cheetham
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
George Bagnall Bradshaw 42
Mary Dorothea Bradshaw 33
John Champion Bradshaw 14
William Jas Bradshaw 11
George Bagnall Bradshaw 9
Champion J Jan Bradshaw 4
Joseph Wright Bradshaw 3
Mary Amelia Bradshaw 7
Mary Dorothea Clampihan 85

But Joe is not Joe Cecil. The father is a something designer.