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I think so too Catherine.
A shame we didnt have her mothers name at the start if known though,just that her mother had about 13 childeren in all and no marriage cert for any details or not of Roses father!!
We would have got there a lot quicker I think.

But pat on back all round ..;)

I think we did quite well here.
Well done girls!

1911

NORTHWAY, Alfred Head Married 21 years M 40 1871 Labourer General Barnstapel Devon VIEW
NORTHWAY, Susana Wife Married F 42 1869 Ilsington Devon VIEW
NORTHWAY, James Son M 14 1897 Bobber Carrier Card Room Hall Torbryan Devon VIEW
NORTHWAY, George Son M 13 1898 Bobber Carrier Card Room Hall Ilsington Devon VIEW
NORTHWAY, William Son M 11 1900 School Ashburton Devon VIEW
NORTHWAY, Richard Son M 10 1901 School Ashburton Devon VIEW
NORTHWAY, Mary Daughter F 6 1905 Ashburton Devon VIEW
NORTHWAY, Mable Daughter F 4 1907 Ashburton Devon VIEW
NORTHWAY, Gwendoline Daughter F 1 1910 Ashburton Devon VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
12726 Reference:
RG14PN12726 RG78PN732 RD272 SD4 ED2 SN121

Registration District:
Newton Abbot Sub District:
Ashburton EnumerationDistrict:
2 Parish:
Ashburton

Address:
Great Bridge Ashburton County:
Devonshire

So also living Ashburton!

1891
Name: Susanna Northway
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Alfred
Gender: Female
Where born: Ilsington, Devon, England
Civil parish: Ashburton
Ecclesiastical parish: Ashburton
Town: Ashburton
County/Island: Devon
Country: England


Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Northway 20
Susanna Northway 23
Madalin Madon 2
Madalin Madon
[Rosalin Radon]
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation: Wife's Daughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Newton Abbot, Devon, England
Tom Northway 1 son


1901

Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Northway 30
Susana Northway 33
Tom Northway 11
Samuel Northway 9
Alfred Northway 6
James Northway 4
George Northway 3
William Northway 1
Infant Northway 2 weeks

I think this is her in 1891 ,so pretty certain she is illegitimate...

NORTHWAY, Alfred Head Married M 20 1871 Farm Labourer
Barnstaple
Devonshire
NORTHWAY, Susanna Wife Married F 23 1868
Ilsington
Devonshire
RADON, Rosalin Wifes Daughter F 2 1889 <<prob Rose Ellen,terrible writing!
Newton Abbot
Devonshire
NORTHWAY, Tom Son M 1 1890
Ashburton


Civil Parish:
Ashburton Municipal Borough:
Address:
Caton, Ashburton County:
Devonshire

wonder if Rose was born before Susanna got married for the 1st time!!

??Susanna 1871
Name: Susanna Raddon
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Ilsington, Devon, England
Civil parish: Ilsington
Town: Halford
County/Island: Devon


Household Members:
Name Age
William Beer 60
Jane Beer 50
Samuel Beer 21
Harriett Beer 17
Mary J Beer 7
Richard Setter 33Son-in-law
Mary Raddon 35Sister-in-law
Joseph S Raddon 9
Elizabeth Raddon 5
Susanna Raddon 3

So Rose was probably a Whoopsie Daisy after mother being widowed and before remarriage then ??
Hence being farmed out with Granny??
Or am I way off there do you think ladies??

Edit..
Yep ,,WAY off.
I got me names mixed up.

So looks likely that Roses mum was Susan/nnah?
Still illegit then?

? marriage
Marriages Mar 1890
Algate Florence Newton A. 5b 232
Northway Alfred William W Newton A. 5b 232 ******
Raddon Susanna Newton A. 5b 232 ****
Woolacott William Henry Newton A. 5b 232

Following Mary:-


1871 England Census
about Mary Raddon
Name: Mary Raddon
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Sister-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Ilsington, Devon, England
Civil parish: Ilsington
Town: Halford
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Sub-registration district: Ashburton
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 50
Household Members:
Name Age
William Beer 60
Jane Beer 50
Samuel Beer 21
Harriett Beer 17
Mary J Beer 7
Richard Setter 33
Mary Raddon 35 - Widow
Joseph S Raddon 9
Elizabeth Raddon 5
Susanna Raddon 3

Marriages Jun 1911
Radden Rose E Newton A. 5b 370
Stephens William Newton A 5b 370


So the Rose Ellen Raddon birth from freeBMD would seem to be her then.

thankyou all so much x

Could this be her?


1891 England Census
about Rose A Northway
Name: Rose A Northway
Age: 11/12
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Lucy
Gender: Female
Where born: Ilsington, Devon, England

Civil parish: Ilsington
Ecclesiastical parish: Ilsington
Town: Liverton
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Registration district: Newton Abbot
Sub-registration district: Ashburton
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Northway 32 - 1859 born: Ilsington, Devon
Lucy Northway 31 - 1860 born: Beaford, Devon
Selina Northway 8
Emma Northway 7
Florence R Northway 5
Percy J Northway 3
Mark Northway 2
Rose A Northway 11/12

1881 England Census
about Mary Milton
Name: Mary Milton
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Ilsington, Devon, England

Civil parish: Torbrian
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address: Coombe Cottage
Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: Newton Abbot
Sub-registration district: Newton Abbot
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
James Milton 55
Mary Milton 47
xxxx Susan Milton 13
Samuel Milton 9
James Milton 6
Richard Milton 5
Daniel Milton 3

So you dont have a copy of her marriage cert then?
Then you really need to start with that for her fathers name and occupation (if she knew it).

And Catherine has posted the 1901 census with her on as a Northway with her grandparents Milton.
I have posted one likely birth for her,mis-spelt .

And there is this one.

Births Sep 1890
----------------------------------
Northway Rose Alma Newton A. 5b 117


So you really need to buy her marriage cert.

sorry she was married as a radden to a william stephens
in 1911 5b370 if i have got the right one i just cant find her in 1891 or 1901 census to confirm i am looking at right person

Births Sep 1888
----------------------------------
RADDON Rose Ellen Newton A. 5b 123

But you still dont say what she has down on her marriage cert for her fathers name,or what her mothers name is ....

birth
Births Sep 1888 (>99%)
RADDON Rose Ellen Newton A. 5b 123

thanks for that guys, but i cant find rose on any other census i havent ordeed the birth cert yet because i need to know weather she was a radden or northway at birth imy great aunt who is still living thinks she was a radden but is not sure, but she is sure that rose mum had 13 children altogeather

1901 England Census
about Rose Northway
Name: Rose Northway
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Newton Abbot, Devon, England

Civil parish: Torbryan
Ecclesiastical parish: Denbury
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Registration district: Newton Abbot
Sub-registration district: Newton Abbot
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Household Members:
Name Age
James Milton 77 born: Torbryan, Devon
Mary Milton 67 born: Ilsington, Devon
Rose Northway 12


Marriages Sep 1874 (>99%)
Milton James Newton A. 5b 275
Raddon Mary Newton A 5b 275