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Janet Finlayson 1831.Cambusbarren, Scotland

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Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Mar 2010 02:33

Aileen, I can assure you I have no details in front of me and I will do and get everything all have suggested.The information was a hand written memory from a 78 year old cousin .So now ,with all this overwhelming help, I will go forth and find them. Thanks again.Cate.

mgnv

mgnv Report 1 Mar 2010 03:36

Catherine - FYI there are old maps of every Scottish county showing parishes at:
http://www.electricscotland.com/history/gazetteer/

Aileen

Aileen Report 1 Mar 2010 03:48

Hi,
I didn't mention anything about you having information in front of you. This was a comment by another poster when I looked for the marriage you mentioned and put the details on. I was happy to do this as it helps all to know which family they are looking for.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Mar 2010 08:50

Catherine

It was me that mentioned you having the details in front of you and it wasn't meant to be offensive in any way. When we are trying to help every wee bit for information helps. It is also good to know the sources of that information i.e. if it has come down the family word of mouth as sometimes the facts can get a wee distorted in the telling.

Statutory registration began in Scotland in 1855. If you look on Scotlands People, I am sure that it tells you what information may be available on certificates. Alas death certificates aren't quite as good as Australian ones as, with the exception of 1855, they don't list the children.

Census records are very useful as they can give you an idea of the approximate year of birth that you are looking for on Scotlandspeople - useful if you are seeking a fairly common surname. Scotlands People also has the Old Parish Records (OPRs). These are mostly Church of Scotland records - the usual way of recording births and marriages prior to 1855. The churches often recorded burials too but these often don't give much information regarding relatives of the deceased.

When you are using SP remember that you can use wildcards e.g. if you enter Jan* it will cover Janet and Jannet. The site is reasonably cheap to use as it is only £6 for 30 credits -1 credit to view the search result and 5 to view / download the entry. So if you're lucky and get the correct person first time you can actually see 6 entries for £6.

As you get more information, if you need census lookups, just come back to this thread and some of us will look them up for you - then you use your money on Scotlandspeople!

Good luck with your research and kindest Regards

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Mar 2010 09:21

1861

Name: Robina Hosie
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: St Ninians, Stirlingshire
Registration Number: 488
Registration district: Cambusbarron
Civil parish: St Ninians
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Wester Row
Occupation: Mill Marker
ED: 8
Household schedule number: 76
Line: 21
Roll: CSSCT1861_65
Household Members: Name Age
Robina Hosie 34
Janet Hosie 10
Margt Hosie 7

Source Citation: Parish: St Ninians; ED: 8; Page: 12; Line: 21; Roll CSSCT1861_65; Year: 1861.


IGI

ROBINA FINLAYSON Pedigree
Female Family



Marriages:
Spouse: ALEXANDER HOSIE Family
Marriage: 31 OCT 1851 Saint Ninians, Stirling, Scotland



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.


Looks like Robina may have remarried?

1891

Name: Robina Taylor
Age: 64
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : William
Gender: Female
Where born: Cambusbarron, Stirlingshire
Registration Number: 488/1
Registration district: St Ninians
Civil parish: St Ninians
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Stirling Road
ED: 8
Household schedule number: 101
Line: 21
Roll: CSSCT1891_154
Household Members: Name Age
William Taylor 57
Robina Taylor 64
Robina Taylor 25
Catherine Taylor 22
Janet N McIntyre 5 Granddaughter b. Alva, Stirlingshire


Source Citation: Parish: St Ninians; ED: 8; Page: 17; Line: 21; Roll CSSCT1891_154; Year: 1891.

1881

Name: William Taylor
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Robina
Gender: Male
Where born: Crieff, Perthshire
Registration Number: 488/1
Registration district: St Ninians
Civil parish: St Ninians
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Stirling Road
Occupation: Woollen Manufacturer
ED: 7
Household schedule number: 133
Line: 13
Roll: cssct1881_139
Household Members: Name Age
William Taylor 47
Robina Taylor 54
Robina Taylor 15
Catherine Taylor 13

Source Citation: Parish: St Ninians; ED: 7; Page: 24; Line: 13; Roll cssct1881_139; Year: 1881.


IGI

WILLIAM TAYLOR Pedigree
Male Family


Marriages:
Spouse: ROBINA FINLAYSON Family
Marriage: 14 OCT 1862 Crieff, Perth, Scotland



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Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.


Aileen

Aileen Report 1 Mar 2010 10:19

1910 FINLAYSON ROBINA TAYLOR F 80 CAMBUSBARRON /STIRLING

Robina Taylor widow of William Taylor(Manufacturer) died 10/08/1910 aged 80 .....daughter of James (Weaver) and Robina Finlayson ms Lennox both deceased.......cert signed by James Taylor (Brother-in-law)

No mention on death cert of a previous marriage

Aileen

Aileen Report 1 Mar 2010 10:31

But........the Janet N McIntyre on the 1891 census as grand-daughter to Robina Taylor was actually Janet H(osie) McIntyre daughter of Janet Hosie

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Mar 2010 05:46

Aileen,
Forgive me. I see now it was not you, I miss read it and am as I said very grateful for all the help. I still sit infront of the computer and will, I promise, take the bull by the horns and try and use S P site. First time is always the worst they say. I just don't understand computers and am learning everything. I also think Margaret is a daughter.
Cate.

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Mar 2010 05:52

mgnv,
Thanks for the site for old Scottish maps, I have printed it to my files.Cate.

mgnv

mgnv Report 2 Mar 2010 07:22

Try http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/803289

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 2 Mar 2010 11:37

1881

Name: Janet McIntyre
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : William
Gender: Female
Where born: Stirlingshire, Cambus Carson
Registration Number: 488/1
Registration district: St Ninians
Civil parish: St Ninians
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Stirling Road
ED: 7
Household schedule number: 135
Line: 24
Roll: cssct1881_139
Household Members: Name Age
William McIntyre 35 b. Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Tweed Power Loom Timer
Janet McIntyre 30
John McIntyre 12 b. Dumfries, Dumfriesshire
Margaret McIntyre 10 b. Hawick, Roxburghshire
William McIntyre 3 b. St Ninians, Stirlingshire
Thomas Nixon McIntyre 2 b. St Ninians, Stirlingshire
Robina McIntyre 1 Month b. St Ninians, Stirlingshire

Source Citation: Parish: St Ninians; ED: 7; Page: 24; Line: 24; Roll cssct1881_139; Year: 1881.

So likes like a second marriage for William


1891 - looks like Janet may have died.

Name: Alexander McIntyre
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: William
Gender: Male
Where born: Alva, Stirlingshire
Registration Number: 470
Registration district: Alva
Civil parish: Alva
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Stirling St Springfield Buildings
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 140
Line: 19
Roll: CSSCT1891_145
Household Members: Name Age
William McIntyre 45
Margaret McIntyre 20
William J McIntyre 13
Thomas N McIntyre 12
Robina F McIntyre 10
Alexander McIntyre 7

Source Citation: Parish: Alva; ED: 1; Page: 29; Line: 19; Roll CSSCT1891_145; Year: 1891.


Catherine

Catherine Report 4 Mar 2010 23:56

G'day Everyone,
Have used all your info and finally used SP site (was easy after all) and found out this so far.OPR, James Finlayson ,Dunblane married Robina Lennox 6/1/1816 Kilmadock. no parents. Can't find deaths yet.
SR, Janet Finlayson, 27,Cambusbarren,M,David Gibson,28,19/11/1858 parents yes and witnesses W Taylor ,A Taylor. Haven't deciphered all yet with the magnifier.
Then marriage of daughter Robina,34 to William Taylor, 29 with her parents both deceased by 14/10/1862 .
So thanks again to all, as I now know where to go.
Hooroo Cate.

mgnv

mgnv Report 5 Mar 2010 03:54

The IGI has two sorts of records - member submitted (which are of variable accuracy) and extracted records which have a batch # and usually a matching image at SP (if they're Scottish).
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true

If you're not familiar with batch #s, they disable many of the silly restrictions in the search screen, and restrict the search to a particular parish register, spanning a specific time frame (or a parish of the GROS index 1855-1875ish). C of S batch #s have the form c11xxxN or m11xxxN where xxx is the parish # and N=1/3 for GROS index (except in a few big cities where N doesn't give enough #s)
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm


Look up:

Results for: John Lennox, British Isles
Spouse: Elizabeth Downie
Exact Spelling: Off
Batch Number: m113645

Results for: British Isles
Father: John Lennox, Mother: Elizabeth Downie
Exact Spelling: Off
Batch Number: c113644

Results for: British Isles
Father: John Lennox, Mother: Elizabeth Downie
Exact Spelling: Off
Batch Number: c113624


Kilmadock, Kincardine and Dunblane are 3 mutually adjacent parishes in S Perthshire.

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Mar 2010 02:43

G'day mgvn,
Thanks for your continuing explanations of all genealogy stumbling blocks for newies, I do appreciate it immensely, and have copied it to file and print, for quick reference when on line. Will do the look ups this week.
I have a RAC Road Atlas for Britain, from our home visit in 1992, and use it all the time to quickly look up the towns mentioned and indeed find it facinating where they the rellies move to.
Hooroo, Cate.