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Lesley

Lesley Report 1 Mar 2010 23:03

Can anyone help me to trace the family of Ernest Middleton who was born in or around the Lincoln area approx 1889. I believe he came from a large family. He married Florence Walker in February 1911. They moved to Liverpool. Any help would be appreciated as I have come to a complete stop on this branch of the family. Thanks in advance for any help.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 1 Mar 2010 23:08

His marriage cert will give you his fathers name and occupation (hopefully if he knew it)to be able to trace him with family..

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 1 Mar 2010 23:09

I have looked for Ernest on the 1911 census to no avail. If you know he was married in February 1911, you presumably have his marriage certificate. So can you tell us his father, and his age at marriage? Any witnessses to the marriage.

What makes you think he moved to Liverpool? When do you think he moved there?

Are you looking to trace his ancestors or his descendants?

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 1 Mar 2010 23:09

Marriages Mar 1911 (>99%)

Middleton Ernest Lincoln 7a 694
Walker Florence Lincoln 7a 694

This will give his father's name and occupation and might help with your search.

Jan

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 3 Mar 2010 12:12

Lesley has pmd me to say the father was William Middleton, Labourer. Witnesses were John William Codling and Elsie Codling. They were living at 66 King Street, Lincoln.

There is still no sign of the couple in 1911. The original 1911 site has only one Ernest Middleton living with a Florence, which is in Cheltenham, but he is unmarried and she is his 10-year old sister.

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 3 Mar 2010 12:25

I've done an address search for 66 King Street, Lincoln in 1911 - not the Middletons or Codlings. I'm not able to find Ernest in 1901 or earlier either.

The church they were married at was St Peter of Gowls - anybody know where that might be?

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 3 Mar 2010 12:29

This is the best I can do:

CODLING, John William Head Married M 40 1871 Engine Fitter Lincoln VIEW
CODLING, John Elizabeth Wife Married
18 years F 38 1873 Lincoln VIEW
CODLING, Elsie Daughter F 14 1897 Lincoln VIEW
GOLDING, William Boarder Single M 26 1885 Engine Fitter Lamberhurst Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
19732 Reference:
RG14PN19732 RG78PN1182 RD418 SD2 ED13 SN139

Registration District:
Lincoln Sub District:
Lincoln Home EnumerationDistrict:
13 Parish:
Lincoln

Address:
52 Thesiger Street Lincoln County:
Lincolnshire

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 3 Mar 2010 12:32

How old were Florence and Ernest on the marriage cert?

When and where was the first child born?

Lesley..
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MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 3 Mar 2010 12:37

Bingo!!
1911 census transcription details for: 60 King St Lincoln:
RG14PN19737 RG78PN1182 RD418 SD2 ED18 SN206

Reg. District: Lincoln Sub District: Lincoln Home
Parish: Lincoln Enum. District: 18
Address: 60 King St Lincoln:
County: Lincolnshire
WALKER, Alfred Head Married M 60 1851 Miller Laneham Notts
WALKER, George Son Single M 35 1876 Engineers Machinest Lincoln
WALKER, Lucy Daughter Single F 32 1879 Lincoln
CHAFMAN, Albert Boarder Single M 36 1875 Engineers Fitter Gainstow
MIDDLETON, F Boarder Married F 24 1887 Lincoln

MIDDLETON, E Boarder Married M 22 1889 Boiler Rivetter Hull


Maureen

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 3 Mar 2010 12:56

You clever Maureen ,well done,good hunting..AGAIN..
Here comes the glow of ,,Tarah deh rah>>>I FOUND EM !

I have the wet fish ready for about an hours time>>;))

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 3 Mar 2010 13:05

1891?

Civil Parish:
Sculcoates Municipal Borough:
Kingston upon Hull Address:
53, Barmston Street, Sculcoates, Kingston Upon Hull

MIDDLETON, William Head Married M 45 1846 Dock Side Labourer
Hull
Yorkshire
MIDDLETON, Ellen Wife Married F 39 1852
Hull
Yorkshire
MIDDLETON, Fredrick Wm Son Single M 20 1871 Cotton Spinner
Hull
Yorkshire
MIDDLETON, Walter Son M 17 1874 Cotton Spinner
Sutton upon Trent
Nottinghamshire
MIDDLETON, Harry Son M 9 1882 Scholar
Hull
Yorkshire
MIDDLETON, Lizzy Daughter F 6 1885 Scholar
Hull
Yorkshire
MIDDLETON, Ernest Son M 2 1889
Hull
Yorkshire

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 3 Mar 2010 13:11

Yuck,Viv. I'm still on my first cup of coffee here. Don't you dare come near me with that smelly fish.

I can't seem to find them/him on the 1901,though.

Maureen

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 3 Mar 2010 13:24

Walter in 1901

Address:
8, Gibson Street Florence Place, Sculcoates

COOPER, Henry Head Married M 65 1836 Shoemaker
Hull
Yorkshire
COOPER, Mary A Wife Married F 63 1838
Hull
Yorkshire
COOPER, Joseph J Son Single M 38 1863 Dockside Laborer
Hull
Yorkshire
MIDDLETON, Edith Daughter Married F 21 1880
Hull
Yorkshire
MIDDLETON, Edith Grand Daughter F 1 1900
Lincoln
Lincolnshire
MIDDLETON, Walter Son-In-Law Married M 26 1875 Laborer In Iron Fdry
Sutton on Trent
*****************************************

Frederick.

Address:
341, Wincolmlee, Sculcoates

MIDDLETON, Frederick W Head Married M 30 1871 General Labourer
Hull
Yorkshire
MIDDLETON, Elizabeth Wife Married F 26 1875
Hull
Yorkshire
MIDDLETON, Charles F Son M 2 1899
Hull
Yorkshire


The rest of them defeat me.

You getting anywhere MadMeg??

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 3 Mar 2010 14:08

Sorry, had to go visit the bank manager - will take a look now. Or shall I go back to the bank manager?

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 3 Mar 2010 14:17

Bank manager only if he is giving money,not asking for it !

Get searchng woman,we have been,your turn now ...;)

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 3 Mar 2010 14:18

1901 England Census
about William S Middleton
Name: William S Middleton
Age: 57
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull

Civil parish: Clee
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: [Grimsby]
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Grimsby
Sub-registration district: Great Grimsby
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 109
Household Members: Name Age
William S Middleton 57 Wid
Edith Foster 30 Servant

But he's now a painter and decorator.

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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MIDDLETON, William Inmate Married M 67 1844 Formerly A General Labourer Yorks Hull VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
19762 Reference:
RG14PN19762 RD418 SD2 ED43 SN9999

Registration District:
Lincoln Sub District:
Lincoln Home EnumerationDistrict:
43 Parish:
Lincoln

Address:
Lincoln

It's the district Union Workhouse.

The 1901 William above doesn't seem right.

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 3 Mar 2010 15:04

Might this be Ellen and Lizzy?

1901 England Census
about Elizabeth Middleton
Name: Elizabeth Middleton
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Eleanor
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: South East Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 188
Household Members: Name Age
Eleanor Middleton 48 Wife Married, born Sutton Bridge Norfolk.
Elizabeth Middleton 16
Walter Silvers 40 Musician, Boarder.
Maude Silvers 12
Walter Silvers 10

52 Devon Street, Leeds.

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 3 Mar 2010 15:12

This could be Harry:

1901 England Census
about Henry Middleton
Name: Henry Middleton
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Sculcoates
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Kingston Upon Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: Drypool
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 190
Household Members: Name Age
George Courtney 40
Emma Courtney 39
Rhoda Courtney 20
Alice Courtney 18
George W Courtney 15
Maria Courtney 11
Jane A Courtney 9
Emma A Courtney 4
Henry Middleton 16 Boarder, Gen Lab

Where might Ernest be?

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 3 Mar 2010 15:13

That's where I was headed too!
Marriages Mar 1871
Middleton William Hull 9d 319
Thompson Eleanor Hull 9d 319

1881 Ancestry
Name: Eleanor Middleton
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Wm.
Gender: Female
Where born: Sutton Bridge, Norfolk, England
Civil parish: Southcoates
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: 3 Mill Yard
Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: Drypool
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm. Middleton 36
Eleanor Middleton 29
Fredk. Wm. Middleton 10
Walter Middleton 7
Jas. Middleton 5
Joseph Middleton 3
Edith Middleton 1
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4754; Folio: 74; Page: 33
......
1901 census transcription details for: 52, Devon Street, Leeds
RG number: RG13 Piece: 4217 Folio: 108 Page: 39

Reg. District: Leeds Sub District: South East Leeds
Parish: Leeds Enum. District: 25
Ecclesiastical District: All Saints City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 52, Devon Street, Leeds
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
MIDDLETON, Eleanor Wife Married F 48 1853
Sutton Bridge
Norfolk
MIDDLETON, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 16 1885 Eating House Waitress
Hull
Yorkshire
SILVERS, Walter Boarder Single M 40 1861 Musician
Southampton
Hampshire
SILVERS, Maude Boarder F 12 1889
Nottingham
Nottinghamshire
SILVERS, Walter Boarder M 10 1891
Ipswich
Suffolk

Maureen

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 3 Mar 2010 15:16

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about William Middleton
Name: William Middleton
Year of Registration: 1871
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Hull (1854 Onw)
County: Yorkshire - East Riding, Humberside
Volume: 9d
Page: 319 (click to see others on page)

Bride Eleanor Thompson.

I see we are on the same trail!!! Does no harm to confirm.