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sylvia

yes, i think you found what i was loking for at this time, thanks , will post again soon.

That's great!


Now


what do you know,

was anything found on this thread that was new to you,

and is there anything else you want/need to know, or have all your current questions been answered?!



sylvia

Thank you for your reply, I meam no offence to anyone trying to help me, I will not use large leters again, Sorry about that. I did not realise i have been asking he same questions. Hopefully now we can go forward and keep everyone happy. Once again thank you and i do apprecitate every ones help, even if i get it wrong.

bearcub/trevor


you are getting flack because you have seemingly asked this question before.


That's fine ...........................


But the usual thing to do is EITHER continue with that earlier thread (or threads) when wanting information on the same people.

OR alternatively, to post on any new thread, everything that you know has been found on those previous threads.


Otherwise, you have people like me wasting our time finding that information all over again ...... and again, and again!


We love to help people, and it makes no difference to us whether you are a Gold member or a Standard member (like me) ..................... we help everyone.


Even to saying that we wouldn't waste our money on being a Gold member!! lol!

Some people go to the extent of searching out earlier threads to see what has been found .................... or they might remember having worked on the family and/or name before.

Unless I remember the name for some reason, i can't be bothered to go searching for past threads ........ but if I had known what information you already had, then I could have spent that couple of hours either searching on other sites for you OR in helping someone else.

BTW...... it is in GR's Terms and Conditions that there should not be more than 1 thread posted on the same subject.


In case you don't know, all previous threads you have started or on which you have posted can be found by looking in the box headed Tools to the left of the screen, and then clicking on My Threads.


While we're at it ..................... internet etiquette says that you shouldn't use all capitals. Many people (including myself) find it hard to read ...... but it is also considered to be shouting in the internet community. :)))




sylvia

EXCUSE ME, AM I MISSING SOME THING HERE? WHY AM I GETTING AGRO? ALL I ASK FOR IS A LITTLE HELP IN FINDING PEOPLE BUT ALL I SEEM TO GET FLAX. THIS IS WHAT I THOUGH THIS SITE WAS ABOUT, HELPING TO FIND PEOPLE. I PAID TO BE A GOLD MEMBER, SO WHATS THE PROBLEM? SOME OF YOU MAY BE EXPERT AT THIS GAME, I'M ONLY JUST LEANRING. SO HELP IS ALL I ASK.

Geez, Helen


Thank you


I was fuming last night about the deleted posts on this thread ........ deleted by helpers who had found information, posted it then deleted it. And I know they had done that because I saw this thread earlier in the day but didn't have time to do any work on it.


I knew that I was repeating some work because of those deletions



BUT to now know that work has been repeated because Trevor didn't give all the information he had


That's it!!

More steam coming from ears!


I shall be ultra careful with Trevor and his requests in future.





sylvia

Just for ref, here is the family in 1881 mistranscribed.


1881 England Census
about Daniel Capiley
Name: Daniel Capiley
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Isabella
Gender: Male
Where born: Gravesend, Kent, England

Civil parish: Streatham
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 1 Kenilford Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:


Occupation: Carpenter

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Streatham
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Capiley 41
Isabella Capiley 40
William Capiley 20
Elizabeth Capiley 18
Lucy Capiley 16
Nelly Capiley 13
Bella Capiley 10
Daniel Capiley 2
Joseph Capiley 1
John Newnham 20 boarder
William Budd 30 boarder

Christine

Trevor has had previous posts re his copley family- some now deleted. Trevor, you really need to look through and accurately record info that is given you- this will save unpaid GR members repeating the same research.

I wondered if Lucy Jane was the daughte rof Daniel and Isabella, or an earlier wife ......... but seemingly she was their child


She was apparently baptized as an adult ........... there is an A in the margin of the page next to her name


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Lucy Jane Copley
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 7 Apr 1883
Father's Name: Daniel Copley
Mother's Name: Isabella Copley
Parish: St Mary, Balham
Borough: Wandsworth
County: Middlesex


from image:-

Address:- 1 Kenilford Road
Father's occupation:- Carpenter



sylvia

Well well


There are TWO Daniel Friend Copleys born in Kent

One in 1836 who seemingly married a Mary Ann ...... and was a Carpenter or Carpenter and Joiner


and one in 1840 who married Isabella ....... and was a Carpenter



which one was born in Dartford and which one was born in Gravesend ......... seems to differ from census to census!!



I can find the marriage to Mary Ann .......... but not the marriage to Isabella.





could defintiely be a bit of a problem sorting it all out!!




sylvia

There's this baptism of Ada on Ancestry:

Name: Ada Copley
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 8 Jul 1886
Father's Name: Daniel Copley
Mother's Name: Isabella Copley
Parish: Ascension, Balham Hill
Borough: Wandsworth
County: Middlesex

And 3 marriages of Daniel Friend Copley:

Record


Preview
Name: Daniel Friend Copley
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Powell
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 16 Oct 1859
Parish: St Pancras Parish Church
County: Middlesex
Borough: Camden
Father Name: John Copley
Spouse Father Name: Richard Powell

Name: Daniel Friend Copley
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Spouse Name: Emily Ludlow
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 6 Sep 1884
Parish: St Nicholas, Tooting Graveney
County: Middlesex
Borough: Wandsworth
Father Name: Daniel Friend Copley
Spouse Father Name: John Ludlow

Name: Daniel Friend Copley
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Spouse Name: Jessie Tryphena Eliza Darby
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 2 Apr 1904
Parish: Ascension, Balham Hill
County: Middlesex
Borough: Wandsworth
Father Name: Daniel Friend Copley
Spouse Father Name: James Darby

and here is the true record of Ada's baptism, from the actual register in London


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Ada Copley
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 8 Jul 1886
Father's Name: Daniel Copley
Mother's Name: Isabella Copley
Parish: Ascension, Balham Hill
Borough: Wandsworth
County: Middlesex


from image:-

Address:- 1 Kenilford Crescent
Father's occupation:- Carpenter




???? Ada and her parents in 1891????


1891 Census

Name: Daniel Friend Copley
Age: 57
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Isabella
Gender: Male
Where born: Gravesend, Kent, England

Civil parish: Streatham
Ecclesiastical parish: Ascension
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Streatham

Daniel Friend Copley 57 Carpenter
Isabella Copley 50
Lucy Jane Copley 25
Daniel Francis Copley 12
Joe Copley 10
Harry Copley 8
Harriet Copley 6
Ada Copley 4

Address:- 1 Kenilford Road


sylvia

and here is the familysearch record allegedly showing Ada Copley and parents


Ada COPLEY (AFN: 23N7-7NM) Pedigree
Sex: F Family

Event(s)
Birth: 19 May 1886
Balham, Wandsworth, London, England
Death: 28 Aug 1969
Brixton Hill, Brixton, , England

Parents
Father: David Friend COPLEY (AFN: 23N7-8V2) Family
Mother: Isobella Sophia HILL (AFN: 23N7-8W8)

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Arthur Henry COOKE (AFN: 23N7-7MF) Family
Marriage: 26 Aug 1906
, Wandsworth, London, England

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Submitter(s) Details

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About Ancestral File
Ancestral File is a collection of genealogical information taken from Pedigree Charts and Family Group Records submitted to the Family History Department since 1978. The information has not been verified against any official records. Since the information in Ancestral File is contributed, it is the responsibility of those who use the file to verify its accuracy.

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Please Note
Names and address of submitters to Ancestral File and those who have a research interest are provided to help in the coordination of research. The use of this information for any other purpose, including commercial use, is strictly prohibited.




sylvia

ANOTHER record from www.familysearch.org

Also SUBMITTED


BUT as someone found earlier (now seemingly deleted) ... the hsuband is DANIEL not David, thus proving that one or other of these records is wrong!



Isobella Sophia Hill Pedigree
Female Family

Event(s):
Birth: 1841 Yeovil, Somerset, England

Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: Daniel Friend Copley Family
Marriage: JUN 1860 Kensington, London, England

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Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.

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Source Information:
No source information is available.




sylvia

This has to be the familysearch record that bearcub is referring to



Individual Record FamilySearch™ Ancestral File v4.19


Isobella Sophia HILL (AFN: 23N7-8W8) Pedigree
Sex: F Family


Event(s)
Birth: Abt. 1864


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Parents

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: David Friend COPLEY (AFN: 23N7-8V2) Family
Marriage:

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Submitter(s) Details

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About Ancestral File
Ancestral File is a collection of genealogical information taken from Pedigree Charts and Family Group Records submitted to the Family History Department since 1978. The information has not been verified against any official records. Since the information in Ancestral File is contributed, it is the responsibility of those who use the file to verify its accuracy.

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Please Note
Names and address of submitters to Ancestral File and those who have a research interest are provided to help in the coordination of research. The use of this information for any other purpose, including commercial use, is strictly prohibited.



Probably completely unverified information, submitted by an individual, who is/was probably a church member.





bearcub

....... did you have a previous thread on the family?


Is that thread still in existence or have you deleted it?



I'm just wondering what other information mught have been posted on that thread.





I'm also wondering if you realise that no information is provided by GR ..................... the information given on these threads and boards is ALL found and posted by individual members of GR, we call ourselves helpers.

We all have experience in researching our families, and like to help other people. We do that using our memberships in other sites, and using our expertise in attempting to sort through information.


However, we none of us claim to be infallible, and for that reason I maintain that all information provided by any helper should be double-checked.


It seems that whoever found the information above for you did not tell you that one has to be very very careful of information found on www.familysearch.org if it does not come from a known source, such as parish registers, and if it does not say that there is backing documentation.




sylvia

I realised that GR was Genes Reunited but didn't understand what you meant by saying that the names were given by GR..

Do you have any certificates to connect back to Ada Copley?

Christine

Is this relevant? Getting myself in a knot here!

Marriages Jun 1860 (>99%)
Bishop Ann Eliza Kensington 1a 80
Copley Daniel Kensington 1a 80
HILL Isabella Kensington 1a 80
Sims Alfred Kensington 1a 80

WE GOT THERE IN THE END, THANKS.

GR MEAMS GENES REUNITED. THE NAME WAS DEFINITELY GIVEN AS DAVID, BUT NEAVER MIND, THATS MAYBE WHY I COULD NOT FIND ANY THING. THNKS