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James BENNETT was born 1781 Hackney occ Dyer,married to Elizabeth [unknown ] b abt 1791
1841 census High Hill Tory St John's Hackney

Barbara

Hi Dee
Right again Frederick .Bennett b 1818 Hackney & Sophia Thompson b 1828 Newington were parents of Frederick b .born 1848
Barbarax.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Robert Brooker
Name: Robert Brooker
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Spouse Name: Mary Bonnett
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 7 Jul 1849
Parish: St George the Martyr
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: John Brooker
Spouse Father Name: James Bonnett >>> Dyer

1851 England Census
about William Bennett
Name: William Bennett
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Wife's Bror
Gender: Male
Where born: Hackney, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalen
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Brooker 24
Mary Brooker 24
Robert Brooker 1
Elizabeth Bennett 60 >>>> Widow of Dyer!!!
William Bennett 17
Clara Bennett 5 >>> Niece





Dee x

This looks to be 1861:-

Name: Fredrick Bennett
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Fredrick
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: St Giles
Town: London
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Registration district: St Giles
Sub-registration district: St Giles South
ED, institution, or vessel: St Giles and Bloomsbury United Parish Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 228
Household Members:
Name Age)
Fredrick Bennett 42 (1819) born: London - (Porter)
Mary Ann Bennett 34 (1827) born: London
Lucy A Bennett 11
Fredrick Bennett 9
Jane Bennett 5
Sophia Bennett 3
John Bennett 1 (1860)

so there is a brother John but born 1860, not 1853?


Looks like same family in 1871:-
Name: Frederic Bennett
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: St Clement, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Giles in The Fields
Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St Giles
Sub-registration district: St Giles, South
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Household schedule number: 139
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Ann Bennett 43 born: St Martin in The Fields, Middlesex
Widow - Charwoman
Frederic Bennett 19
Louisa Bennett 21
Jane Bennett 17
Sophia Bennett 13

As Mary Ann was born about 1828, I would suggest their marriage would be between 1845 and 1850 (birth of Louisa)

which leaves this one as a possible:-
Marriages Dec 1848 (>99%)
BENNETT Frederick Shoreditch 2 390
Billings Mary Ann Shoreditch 2 390


same family in 1851:-
Name: Fredk Bennett
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Saddington, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Clement Danes
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address: 4 Harford Place

Occupation: Porter

Registration district: Strand
Sub-registration district: St Clement Danes
ED, institution, or vessel: 1n
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 74
Household Members:
Name Age
Fredk Bennett 31
Mary Bennett 24 born: Saint Martin in The Fields, Middlesex
Louisa Bennett 9 Mo

Ann Islip 63

Some of Fredericks siblings to follow;

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about James Bennet
Name: James Bennet
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 12 Oct 1828
Father's Name: James Bennet >>> Dyer
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Bennet
Parish: St Thomas, Clapton Common
Borough: Hackney
County: Middlesex





London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about William Weatherly Bennet
Name: William Weatherly Bennet
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 29 Sep 1833
Father's Name: James Bennet >>> Dyer
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Bennet
Parish: St Thomas, Clapton Common
Borough: Hackney
County: Middlesex




Not listing the girls as the name would change at marriage and it's the Bennetts were chasing.



Dee x

the baptism that Barbara states;

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Frederic Bennett
Name: Frederic Bennett
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 28 Jun 1818
Father's Name: James Bennett >>> Dyer
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Bennett
Parish: St John at Hackney
Borough: Hackney
County: Middlesex




Dee x

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Frederick Bennett
Name: Frederick Bennett
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Spouse Name: Sophia Thompson
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 5 Aug 1848
Parish: St Giles, Camberwell
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: James Bennett >>. occupation Dyer
Spouse Father Name: George Thompson



Dee x

Their marriage?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1848 (>99%)
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Ayre Joseph Watson Camberwell 4 43
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BENNETT Frederick Camberwell 4 43
Howlett Emily Camberwell 4 43
LOARING Rosalie Clemence Camberwell 4 43
PICKTHALL Wallis Marmaduke Camberwell 4 43
>>>>>>>Thompson Sophia Camberwell 4 43
Williamson Francis Robert Camberwell 4 43
WILSON Margaretta Jane Camberwell 4 43




Dee x

Hi,

this could be Frederick with his father Frederick;

1851 England Census
about Fredrick Bennetts
Name: Fredrick Bennetts
Age: 3 Mo
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Fredrick
Mother's Name: Sophia
Gender: Male
Where born: Camberwell, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 126
Household Members: Name Age
Fredrick Bennetts 32 Hackney, Middlesex
Sophia Bennetts 22
Emeleane Bennetts 1 6 Mo
Fredrick Bennetts 3 Mo


Dee x

Do you have Frederick and Mary's marriage cert?
If yes, then what was the name and occupation of his father?
Or would that be the Frederick born 1818 you mentioned above?

following through:-

1881
Name: Fredk. Bonnett
[Fredk. Bennett]
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary E.
Gender: Male

Civil parish: Battersea
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 96 Winstanley Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Silversmith

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Fredk. Bonnett 30
Mary E. Bonnett 30 born: London St Andrews
Frerick Bonnett 6 born: London St Clemands
Louise Bonnett

Frederick is really a nightmare of a name to find thank goodness there's good old Mary.


This is the only birth I can find in London:-
Births Mar 1851 (>99%)
Bennett Frederick George Camberwell 4 92

yes ,this is the marriage of my gGranparents Frederick George Bennett & Mary Eliza Malyon at Clement Danes .the little Oranges & lemons Chuch in Clements lane ,not the main Church on The Strand.
Many Thanks for persevering .
Barbara

Yes correct Frederick is aged 40
Thanks again
Barbara

thank you ,
Yes this correct ,seems as if we are
getting somewhere at last
My ggGrandfather Frederick Bennett was bapt Hackney 1818 , son of James & Elizabeth .
I think that maybe John Frederick was a grandson of theirs ,but only surmising .,
Barbara

Family of Francis H Bennet in 1891

Name: Fredk Bennett
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: St Giles, London, England

Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 22 George Street

Occupation: Gold Silversmith

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Somers Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Fredk Bennett 60 (age is not easy to make out)
Mary Bennett 40 born: St Andrews, London
Fredk Bennett 16
Louis Bennett 10
Ada Bennett 7
Francis Bennett 6
Nelly Bennett 4
Lillian Bennett 2
Ernest Bennett 5/12


Is this their marriage?
Marriages Sep 1873 (>99%)
BENNETT Frederick George Strand 1b 914
Malyon Mary Eliza Strand 1b 914
Nutley William Henry Strand 1b 914
Smith Emily Hester W Strand 1b 914

you should know by Mary's birth cert.

1871 he is a Shopman Grocer:-

Name: John Bennett
Age: 57
Estimated birth year: abt 1814
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Lewisham, Kent, England
Civil parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: South Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: South Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household schedule number: 373
Household Members:
Name Age
John Bennett 57
Frederik Bennett 10 -Son
Alfred Bennett 5 -Son born: Dalston, Middlesex
Mary Ann Bennett 47 - Wife
Kate Bennett 20 -Daughter
Agnes Bennett 14 - Daughter


1881:-
Name: John Bennett
Age: 67
Estimated birth year: abt 1814
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Lewisham, Kent, England

Civil parish: Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 146 Powerscroft Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married

Employment status: Unemployed

Occupation: Jewelers Assist Unemp

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: West Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Bennett 67
Mary Ann Bennett 56
Frederick H. Bennett 25
Arthur P. Bennett 20
Alfred W. Bennett 5

so maybe not?
or could be as he was unemployed he may have been working with his son in 1879?
(Just thinking out loud)

I wonder if this is worth considering:-

1861
Name: John Bennet
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington

Civil parish: Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: Haggerston St Paul
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Haggerstone West
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 57
Household Members:
Name Age
John Bennet 46 born: Lewisham
Mary Ann Bennet 37
John Bennet 8
Fredk Bennet 6
Arthur Bennet 5 Mo
Kate Bennet 10
Agnes Bennet 4
Louisa Grange 15

father is a Jewellers Shopman but he could have changed profession by 1879.
It would give a link with Frederick Bennett who was a Jeweller in 1901 census above?

for ref:-
1881
Name: John Frederic Bennett
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 35 Southboro Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Stationer

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: South Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 7c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Frederic Bennett 28
Annie Bennett 25

Well I just can't find him prior to 1881......... I looked for a father John Bennett in 1881 with the occupation as a Stationer, didn't turn anything up there!!!

No Baptism record for him either....


Dee x