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thanks for all your help I've had a break from this side of my tree, and now about the re start again, with more luck I hope.

thanks Valerie

found her on the 1861 cencus in b'ham.
think her parents are william rigby born1806
elizabeth born 1806 liverpool found on the 1841 cencus.

found her on the 1861 cencus in b'ham.a lodger.
think her parent where william born 1806 and mother elezabeth 1806 bo

1/10/1868 death. george holden b'ham

alfred holden born 24/1/1865 b'ham
annie holden born 1866 b'ham
mary ann asbury 25/2/1877 b'ham

yes thats correct she then lived with thomas Asbury.
calling herself Mrs asbury.

yes I have his death cert.

yes this is in my record's its my family

this is a differant Catherine I have checked this record.

thanks Valerie

1881 for alternative spelling of surname

Name: Thomas Astbury
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Kate
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmn, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address: 3 "Digby Place" (Digby St)
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Fender Moulder (U/8)

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 61 and 62
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Astbury 42
Kate Astbury 41
Mary Astbury 4
Alfred Holden 16

Possible death - but guesswork, really

Deaths Dec 1868 (>99%)
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Holden George 36 Birmingham 6d 86

1871 says she's a widow

Why did your original message refer only to Birmingham?

1861 census

Name: Catherine Rigby
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Aintree, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Britton 44
Rose Britton 34
Alexander Britton 9
Catherine Rigby 22

1871 ??


Name: Catharine Holden
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: Bishop Ryder
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 42
Household Members: Name Age
Catharine Holden 31
Alfred Holden 6
Anne Holden 5
David Mears 65

Right - let's get some sense of order

1851 census

Name: Catherine Rigby
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edward
Mother's Name: Catherine
Gender: Female
Where born: Aintree, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Aintree
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England



Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Rigby 30
Catherine Rigby 36
Robert Rigby 19
Elizabeth Rigby 17
Ann Rigby 15
Catherine Rigby 12
Margaret Rigby 10
George Rigby 7

Being recorded on a census as 'wife' is no proof of a marriage having taken place

When were the children born?

What were their names?

If you wish us to help you, it is important that you give us ALL the info - not just scraps.

It was the childrens birth certs that I was asking about.

Can you give the details from them

You won't have any chance of a birth cert if she was born before July 1837

yes found her and family on cencu's from 1941 to 1901 with both husbands