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Hi all Snellings,

I am descended from the 'other' James Edward Snelling. He was my grandfather and he married Alice Planner. Does anyone know if the two James Edwards wre related?

Nerida (nee Snelling)

Hi Ninja Lady. My apologies, I havn't looked at this string for months, too busy writing the book. I sent John my entire Snelling tree a while ago and I think he's been busy with it ever since!
Most recently (last week) I sent him what I'd written about his parents and grandparents and he sent back some additions and corrections so the lines are open.

If anyone else is interested please get in touch. All contributions welcome.

Kaye Cole

Hi Kaye

My apologies for not replying to your message. I have posted some of the information here to help John with his research.

" You have almost everything right about Lewis' family. However his eldest son James E. married Julia Kable, not Alice Planner.

I'm looking for info about Nurse Daisy (Florence May) Snelling b. 1871, if you happen to know much about her."


Thank you for clearing up the Florence May/Daisy Snelling mystery - they were the same person!! And thank you also for correcting the wife of James E Snelling - although I did say that was a problematic marriage and gave him both marriages and sets of children, just in case. I am sure John will very much appreciate this extra information. Have you sent him a private message? It might be worth dropping him a line in case he doesn't come back to this thread if he has copied and pasted the information.

Florence May Snelling was always known as Daisy. She became a Bush Nurse in outback NSW and also cared for various members of her family when they were ill or in need, such as when Nellie Border died and left a very young family.

Currently writing a book about this family, so would welcome enquiries or contributions!

Kaye Cole

Ralph & Flora are my Grandparents. They had 3 sons, Jack Nielsen; Ralph Eric (my father) & Harry Prince
John

Electoral roll for Percy Snelling

Name: Percy Frederick Snelling
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1930
State: New South Wales
District: Reid
Subdistrict: Homebush

Occupation - accountant
Address - The Avenue, Strathfield
Also listed - Lillian Evelyn Snelling

Name: Percy Frederick Snelling
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1936
State: New South Wales
District: Parkes
Subdistrict: Strathfield

Occupation - accountant
Address - The Avenue, Strathfield
Also listed - Lillian Evelyn Snelling


Name: Percy Frederick Snelling
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1943
State: New South Wales
District: Parkes
Subdistrict: Strathfield

Occupation - accountant
Address - 69 The Avenue, Strathfield
Also listed - Lillian Evelyn Snelling


Name: Percy Frederick Snelling
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1949
State: New South Wales
District: Lowe
Subdistrict: Strathfield

Occupation - accountant
Address - 69 Churchill Avenue, Strathfield
Also listed - Lillian Evelyn Snelling


Name: Percy Frederick Snelling
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1954
State: New South Wales
District: Lowe
Subdistrict: Burwood

Occupation - accountant
Address - 69 Churchill Avenue
Also listed - Lillian Evelyn Snelling


Death for Percy Frederick Snelling and Lillian Evelyn Snelling


Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District
26429/1963 SNELLING PERCY FREDERICK LOUIS DEARM SARAH BURWOOD
21387/1961 SNELLING LILLIAN EVELYN EDGAR WILLIAM SUSAN BURWOOD

Electroral Roll

Name: Ralph Snelling
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1930
State: New South Wales
District: Darling
Subdistrict: Condobolin

Occupation - postmaster
Address - Bathurst Street
Also listed at the same address - Flora Jane Snelling and Jack Snelling - shop assistant


Name: Ralph Snelling
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1933
State: New South Wales
District: Darling
Subdistrict: Nyngan

Address - Post Office, Nyngan
Occupation - public servant
Also listed Flora Jane Snelling


Name: Ralph Snelling
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1936
State: New South Wales
District: Robertson
Subdistrict: Gosford

Occupation - public servant
Address - Railway Street, Woy Woy
Also listed Flora Jane Snelling


Name: Ralph Snelling
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1943
State: New South Wales
District: Parkes
Subdistrict: Burwood

Occupation - public servant
Address 14 Railway Parade
Also listed - Flora Jane Snelling


Death for Ralph Snelling and Flora Jane Snelling

Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District
24993/1964 SNELLING RALPH LEWIS SARAH MOSS VALE
20037/1962 SNELLING FLORA JANE JOHN NOT KNOWN BOWRAL

Death of a son of Reginald Hallet Snelling in WW2

SNELLING, REWI REGINALD LOUIS
Initials: R R L
Nationality: Australian
Rank: Captain
Regiment/Service: Australian Infantry
Unit Text: A.I.F. 2/19 Bn.
Age: 41
Date of Death: 22/01/1942
Service No: NX70191
Additional information: Son of Reginald Hallett Snelling and Florence Snelling; husband of Joyce Mary Snelling, of Clifton Gardens, New South Wales, Australia.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Column 121.
Memorial: SINGAPORE MEMORIAL


Can't see a birth registration for him in NSW but this would be his marriage

1762/1931 SNELLING REWI R L HOLDEN JOYCE M M MOSMAN


Death for Reginald Hallett Snelling and Florence Ellen Snelling


Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District
19660/1960 SNELLING REGINALD HALLETT LEWIS JOHN SARAH ANN SYDNEY
3068/1934 SNELLING FLORENCE E LOUIS MARY SUTHERLAND

Remarriage for Reginald Hallett Snelling

Registration Number Groom's Surname Groom's Given Name(s) Bride's Last Name
at Time of Marriage Bride's Given Name(s) District
18908/1936 SNELLING REGINALD HALLETT MORRIS ROSAMUND SARAH NORTH SYDNEY

If Lewis H Snelling married twice then this is a possibility for the death of his first wife

Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District
6635/1904 SNELLING MARY E JOSEPH PARRAMATTA

A possible earlier marriage for James E Snelling

5785/1889 SNELLING JAMES E HABLE JULIA J RYLSTONE
5785/1889 SNELLING JAMES E KABLE JULIA J RYLSTONE

And children from that marriage

25958/1890 SNELLING EDWARD L JAMES E JULIA I NEWTOWN
24294/1894 SNELLING CYRIL F JAMES E JULIA I NEWTOWN
23918/1896 SNELLING DORIS M JAMES E JULIA I NEWTOWN
5495/1903 SNELLING MARJORIE L JAMES E JULIA I NEWTOWN

Children for the marriage of Ralph Snelling/Flora J Nielson

11375/1909 SNELLING JACK N RALPH FLORA J ANNANDALE



Children for marriage of Reginald H Snelling/Florence E Pengelly

11649/1909 SNELLING NORAH M REGINALD H FLORENCE E ASHFIELD

Possible marriage for Norah M Snelling

11667/1931 LANE KENNETH R SNELLING NORAH M SYDNEY



Children for Charles W Snelling/Amy M Cook

27774/1892 SNELLING ARTHUR F CHARLES W AMY M PADDINGTON
25755/1894 SNELLING CHARLES W CHARLES W AMY M PADDINGTON



Children for Lewis H Snelling/Mary E Cale

21768/1901 SNELLING WINIFRED E LEWIS H MARY E DUBBO
30044/1899 SNELLING MARJORY F LEWIS H MARY E DUBBO



Children for Lewis H Snelling/Ada E Hooper

36140/1909 SNELLING RAYMOND L LEWIS H ADA E DUBBO

Children for James E Snelling/Alice K Planner

32476/1902 SNELLING JAMES W JAMES E ALICE KATOOMBA
41032/1906 SNELLING ROBERT E JAMES E ALICE K WOONONA
36977/1909 SNELLING SYDNEY G JAMES E ALICE K GRANVILLE



Children for Alfred J Snelling/May M Rush

35807/1904 SNELLING HAROLD A R ALFRED J MAY M PETERSHAM

These records only go up to 1909 so there may well be more children after that date.

Possible marriages for the Snelling boys

Registration Number Groom's Surname Groom's Given Name(s) Bride's Last Name
at Time of Marriage Bride's Given Name(s) District

5933/1890 SNELLING CHARLES W COOK AMY M PADDINGTON
5444/1898 SNELLING LEWIS H CALE MARY E DUBBO
4471/1900 SNELLING REGINALD H PENGELLY FLORENCE E PADDINGTON
1601/1902 SNELLING JAMES E PLANNER ALICE K MARRICKVILLE
1980/1902 SNELLING ALFRED J RUSH MAY M PADDINGTON
11044/1907 SNELLING RALPH NEILSON FLORA J MOLONG
4382/1908 SNELLING PERCY F BOSTON LILLIAN E BURWOOD
6447/1908 SNELLING LEWIS H HOOPER ADA E WELLINGTON

Two possible marriages in that listing for Lewis H Snelling - its possible the first wife died.


You would really need to purchase marriage certificates to confirm that these were indeed marriages for the children of Lewis and Sarah Snelling. The most problematic one would be James E Snelling as the children from the earlier marriage overlap with those from the second so it doesn't look like a second marriage for him, whereas there is a gap between those of the two marriages for Lewis H Snelling and a possible death for his first wife.

Three children for Thomas and Sarah Frances Border


Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District

2996/1886 BORDER HAROLD THOMAS SARAH F SYDNEY
12428/1895 BORDER RICHARD L THOMAS SARAH F DUBBO
11848/1897 BORDER ALFRED E THOMAS SARAH F DUBBO

Australian Electoral Rolls

Name: Reginald Hallett Snelling
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1933
State: New South Wales
District: Parramatta
Subdistrict: Sutherland

Occupation - master printer.
The entry above this one is for a Florence Ellen Snelling
Address - Nicholson Parade

Name: Reginald Hallett Snelling
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1936
State: New South Wales
District: Werriwa
Subdistrict: Sutherland

Occupation - master printer
No Florence listed
Address - Nicholson Parade

Name: Reginald Hallett Snelling
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1937
State: New South Wales
District: Werriwa
Subdistrict: Sutherland

Master printer
No Florence listed
Address - Nicholson Parade

Name: Reginald Hallett Snelling
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1943
State: New South Wales
District: East Sydney
Subdistrict: Darlinghurst


Listed with Rosamund Sarah Snelling
Address - 25 Bilyard Avenue

Name: Reginald Hallett Snelling
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1949
State: New South Wales
District: East Sydney
Subdistrict: Darlinghurst


Occupation - printer
Listed with Rosamund Sarah Snelling
Address 25 Billyard Avenue

There is also a listing for a Douglas Burrage Snelling (architect) and a Nancye Snelling - address 2 Roslyn Avenue

Name: Reginald Hallett Snelling
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1954
State: New South Wales
District: Werriwa
Subdistrict: Cronulla

Occupation - printer
Listed with a Rosamund Sarah Snelling
Address - 40 Nicholson Parade

Don't know where this young lady fits into the family but she's on the same ship as the others

Name: Daisy Snelling
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Age: 15
Arrival Date: 24 Jan 1886
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: Plymouth
Ship: Sorata
Nationality: English


Unless this is Florence under a different name?

Here are some more Snellings going to Australia on the Sorata

Name: Chals Snelling
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Age: 7
Arrival Date: 24 Jan 1886
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: Plymouth
Ship: Sorata
Nationality: English

Name: Ralph Snelling
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Age: 7
Arrival Date: 24 Jan 1886
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: Plymouth
Ship: Sorata
Nationality: English


Name: Master Alfd Snelling
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Age: 8
Arrival Date: 24 Jan 1886
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: London
Ship: Sorata
Nationality: English


Name: Percy Snelling
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Age: 8
Arrival Date: 24 Jan 1886
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: Plymouth
Ship: Sorata
Nationality: English



Name: Edwd Snelling
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Age: 10
Arrival Date: 24 Jan 1886
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: Plymouth
Ship: Sorata
Nationality: English


Name: Master Regd Snelling
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Age: 10
Arrival Date: 24 Jan 1886
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: London
Ship: Sorata
Nationality: English


Name: Master Louis Snelling
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Age: 12
Arrival Date: 24 Jan 1886
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: London
Ship: Sorata
Nationality: English

Possible marriage for Sarah Frances Snelling

Marriages Dec 1885 (>99%)
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Border Thomas Newton A 5b 215
Restorick Mary Pamela Newton A. 5b 215
Scagell Jabez Newton Abbot 5b 215
Snelling Sarah Frances Newton A 5b 215

I can't seem to find Jabez Scagell on the 1891 or 1901 census but there is an Edward Scagell with wife Mary.

Looking at the census returns for Thomas Border in 1881 - his occupation is Banker's Clerk - this may just be a coincidence though! Can't find a Thomas Border with wife Sarah though for 1891 or 1901.

There is this couple travelling on the same ship to Australia as the rest of the Snellings.


Name: Thos Border
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Age: 26
Arrival Date: 24 Jan 1886
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: Plymouth
Ship: Sorata
Nationality: English

Name: Sarah Border
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Age: 23
Arrival Date: 24 Jan 1886
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: Plymouth
Ship: Sorata
Nationality: English

Did the Snelling family emigrate to Australia? The seem to disappear after 1881 but there are a couple of incoming passenger entries from Australia that would seem to be a match

Possibly Reginald Hollet Snelling

Name: Mr R H Snelling
Birth Date: abt 1876
Age: 52
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 9 May 1928
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide, Colombo, Port Said, Naples, Gibraltar, Fremantle, Southampton
Ship Name: Oronsay
Search Ship Database: View the 'Oronsay' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Orient Line
Official Number: 147948

Future address in the UK - c/o Australian Bank of Commerce, Threadneedle Street - occupation Printer. Travelling with wife and daughter - Mrs F E Snelling and Miss N M Snelling

Possibly Ralph?

Name: Mr R Snelling
Birth Date: abt 1881
Age: 70
Port of Departure: Sydney, Australia
Arrival Date: 27 May 1951
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Fremantle, Colombo, Aden, Port Said and Gibraltar
Ship Name: Otranto
Search Ship Database: View the 'Otranto' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 146025

Future address in UK - c/o Bank of New South Wales, Threadneedle Street - occupation Director. Travelling with wife.


AHA! Found the parents going out to Australia.

Name: Louis Snelling
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Age: 43
Arrival Date: 24 Jan 1886
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: Plymouth
Ship: Sorata
Nationality: English


Name: Sarah Snelling
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Age: 48
Arrival Date: 24 Jan 1886
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: Plymouth
Ship: Sorata
Nationality: English

WILLIAM SNELLING Pedigree
Male

Birth:
Christening: 24 FEB 1799 Wolborough And Newton Abbot, Devon, England


Parents:
Father: EDWARD SNELLING Family
Mother: SUSANNA


Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

Edward and Susannah's childrens Christenings.

1. EDWARD SNELLING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 30 JAN 1780 Wolborough And Newton Abbot, Devon, England

2. ELIZABETH SNELLING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 31 MAR 1786 Wolborough And Newton Abbot, Devon, England

3. MARY SNALLING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 31 AUG 1783 Wolborough And Newton Abbot, Devon, England

4. MARY SNELLING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 06 FEB 1791 Wolborough And Newton Abbot, Devon, England

5. JAMES SNELLING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 29 AUG 1802 Wolborough And Newton Abbot, Devon, England

6. WILLIAM SNELLING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 24 FEB 1799 Wolborough And Newton Abbot, Devon, England

7. JOHN SNELLING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 28 FEB 1796 Wolborough And Newton Abbot, Devon, England

8. CATHERINE SNELLING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 SEP 1788 Wolborough And Newton Abbot, Devon, England

9. SUSANNA SNELLING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 JUN 1793 Wolborough And Newton Abbot, Devon, England

Marriage of Edward and Susanna

EDWARD SNELLING Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: SUSANNA MORRISH Family
Marriage: 28 AUG 1779 Wolborough And Newton Abbot, Devon, England


Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

Birth for Ralph

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Mar 1881 (>99%)
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SNELLING Ralph Newton A. 5b 117


Andy