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LadyKira
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14 Apr 2010 17:30 |
Well I do not know what to say. The same two addresses are coming up again and again in the census baptisms and marriages offered you. I thoght you acknowledged the Smith /Broomhead marriage. as correct. I did ask you for some confirmed data at the beginning of your thread but you did not answer my request.
1901 census - household transcription Person: SMITH, Henry Address: 13, The Grove, Hackney SMITH, Henry Head M 60 1841 Grocer's Shop Keeper Bethnal Green London VIEW SMITH, Eliza Wife F 60 1841 Bethnal Green London VIEW SMITH, Henry Son M 40 1861 Plasterers Labourer Bethnal Green London VIEW SMITH, Harriet Daughter F 26 1875 Packer & Sorter In Laundry Homerton London VIEW SMITH, Eliza Daughter F 20 1881 Packer & Sorter In Laundry Homerton London VIEW CASUNS, Lilian Grand Daughter F 8 1893 Homerton London
1911 census - Address: 30 Church Hill Road Homerton SMITH, Henry Head Married M 70 1841 Retired Grocer London Bethnal Green VIEW SMITH, Eliza Wife Married 51 years F 70 1841 Assisting In The Business London Bethnal Green VIEW SMITH, Henry Son Single M 50 1861 Potman Li Victualler London Homerton VIEW JASON, Harriett H Daughter Widow F 36 1875 Packer Sorter In Laundry London Homerton VIEW JASON, Charles Grandson M 4 1907 London W Hth VIEW C, Lilian Elizabeth Visitor Single F 18 1893 London Homerton
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14 Apr 2010 17:32 |
1891 census - household transcription Person: SMITH, Henry Address: 13, The Grove, Hackney, South Hackney
SMITH, Henry Head Married M 50 1841 Grocer Bethnal Green London VIEW SMITH, Eliza Wife Married F 50 1841 Bethnal Green London VIEW SMITH, Henry Son Single M 30 1861 Cheese Monger Bethnal Green London VIEW SMITH, John Son Single M 29 1862 Waiter Homerton London VIEW SMITH, Lizzie Daughter Single F 25 1866 Boot Machinist Homerton London VIEW SMITH, Alfred Son Single M 15 1876 Errand Boy Homerton London VIEW SMITH, Eliza Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar Homerton London
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14 Apr 2010 17:33 |
1881 census - household transcription Person: SMITH, Henry Address: 52, Brook Street, Hackney SMITH, Henry Head Married M 40 1841 Shopkeeper Bethnal Green Middlesex VIEW SMITH, Eliza Wife Married F 40 1841 Bethnal Green Middlesex VIEW SMITH, Henry Son Single M 20 1861 Plasterer Bethnal Green Middlesex VIEW SMITH, John Son Single M 19 1862 Plasterer Bethnal Green Middlesex VIEW SMITH, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 15 1866 Helps In Shop Bethnal Green Middlesex VIEW SMITH, Alice Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar Bethnal Green Middlesex VIEW SMITH, Harriet Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar Bethnal Green Middlesex VIEW SMITH, Alfred Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Bethnal Green Middlesex VIEW SMITH, Eliza Daughter Single F 0 1881 Bethnal Green Middlesex
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Wendy
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14 Apr 2010 17:39 |
Sorry, so many things to double check and confirm. The last 3 posts are all correct. They are all confirmed relatives. Because of all of the help, posts are being submitted as we are replying to earlier ones. I stated in the opening that I was able to find Henry Smith in the 1841 and 1851 census, but needed help working out which one was the correct one. I really do think you are right in your research, but I have to be sure. I am now trying to find deaths of Henry Smiths at a young age, this would explain why they can't be found in the 1851 census.
OK, I have found 10 Henry Smith deaths in Bethnal Green between 1841 and 1851. Problem is, it doesn't state their ages.
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14 Apr 2010 17:44 |
1861 England Census about Eliza Broomhead Name: Eliza Broomhead Age: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1816 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: James Gender: Female Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Bethnal Green St Matthew Ecclesiastical parish: St Simon the Zealot County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Hackney Road ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 208 Household Members: Name Age James Broomhead 45 Eliza Broomhead 45 Caroline Broomhead 17 William Broomhead 11 Henry Broomhead 8 James Broomhead 5
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Wendy
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14 Apr 2010 17:52 |
1911 census - Address: 30 Church Hill Road Homerton SMITH, Henry Head Married M 70 1841 Retired Grocer London Bethnal Green VIEW SMITH, Eliza Wife Married 51 years F 70 1841 Assisting In The Business London Bethnal Green VIEW SMITH, Henry Son Single M 50 1861 Potman Li Victualler London Homerton VIEW TOWN, Harriett H Daughter Widow F 36 1875 Packer Sorter In Laundry London Homerton VIEW TOWN, Charles Grandson M 4 1907 London W Hth VIEW CASON, Lilian Elizabeth Visitor Single F 18 1893 London Homerton
Have corrected the surnames for Harriet and Charles. It looks like Jason on the census, but knowing it is Town, it becomes clear to see.. Perhaps because she had a mental illness, as this wasn't stated on any census either.
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LadyKira
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14 Apr 2010 17:54 |
Eliza Broomhead Baptism 15 Sep 1846 James Broomhead Eliza Broomhead St Mary, Haggerston Hackney Middlesex Living at 12 John Street. father is a Turner
Edward Corbett Broomhead Baptism 15 Sep 1846 James Broomhead Eliza Broomhead St Mary, Haggerston Hackney Middlesex Living at 12 John Street. father is a Turner
Henry Broomhead Baptism 15 Sep 1846 James Broomhead Eliza Broomhead St Mary, Haggerston Hackney Middlesex Living at 12 John Street. father is a Turner
William Broomhead Baptism 15 Sep 1846 James Broomhead Eliza Broomhead St Mary, Haggerston Hackney Middlesex Living at 12 John Street. father is a Turner
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LadyKira
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14 Apr 2010 18:07 |
1871 census - address transcription Address: Ely Place, Bethnal Green, London 93 BROOMHEAD, James Head M 56 1815 London VIEW 93 BROOMHEAD, Ellen Wife F 58 1813 Middlesex VIEW 93 BROOMHEAD, Henry Son M 18 1853 Middlesex VIEW 93 BROOMHEAD, James Son M 15 1856 Middlesex
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LadyKira
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14 Apr 2010 18:08 |
next door
1871 census - address transcription Address: Ely Place, Bethnal Green, London 94 BROOMHEAD, William Head M 21 1850 Middlesex VIEW 94 BROOMHEAD, Elizabeth Wife F 23 1848 London VIEW 94 BROOMHEAD, Eliza Daughter F 1 1870 Middlesex
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LadyKira
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14 Apr 2010 18:12 |
I have trawled through 1871 Ely Street
Now for
1871 census - address transcription Address: Digby St, Bethnal Green, London 101 SMITH, Elizabeth Head F 54 1817 Middlesex VIEW 101 SMITH, Emma Daughter F 20 1851 Middlesex VIEW 101 SMITH, Elizabeth Daughter F 18 1853 Middlesex VIEW 101 SMITH, Harriet Daughter F 16 1855 Middlesex VIEW 101 SMITH, George Son M 13 1858 Middlesex VIEW 101 SMITH, Thomas Son M 10 1861 Middlesex
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LadyKira
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14 Apr 2010 18:31 |
ah the missing 1871 Says Bethnal Green on the original
1871 census - household transcription Person: SMITH, Henry Address: Brook St, St John Hackney SMITH, Henry Head M 30 1841 Middlesex VIEW SMITH, Eliza Wife F 30 1841 Middlesex VIEW SMITH, Henry Son M 10 1861 Middlesex VIEW SMITH, John Son M 9 1862 Middlesex VIEW SMITH, Elizabeth Daughter F 5 1866 Middlesex VIEW SMITH, Caroline Daughter F 2 1869 Middlesex VIEW SMITH, Emma Daughter F 1 1870 Middlesex
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Wendy
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14 Apr 2010 18:48 |
Now the 1871 looks promising Kira. I have no records for Emma and Caroline ...yet but all of the others fit well. This was one of the census I couldn't find. TY I will delve into the daughters..perhaps they died young.
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Wendy
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14 Apr 2010 18:59 |
Kira, I can confirm the 1871 census is correct. That's 2 more relatives to add!! I can also add that Emma and Caroline both died at the same time in 1871. I remembered the 1911 census, which a friend found for me, has living and dead children. Henry and Eliza had 14 children, 7 died. So there are more to find.
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LadyKira
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14 Apr 2010 19:25 |
Name: Caroline Smith Record Type: Baptism Date: 13 Dec 1868 Father's Name: Henry Smith Mother's Name: Eliza Smith Parish: St Barnabas, Homerton Borough: Hackney County: Middlesex
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14 Apr 2010 19:28 |
Name: Emma Smith Record Type: Baptism Date: 24 Apr 1870 Father's Name: Henry Smith Mother's Name: Eliza Smith Parish: St Barnabas, Homerton Borough: Hackney County: Middlesex
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LadyKira
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14 Apr 2010 19:34 |
Name: Elizabeth Smith Record Type: Baptism Date: 14 Sep 1865 Father's Name: Henry Smith Mother's Name: Eliza Smith Parish: St Barnabas, Homerton Borough: Hackney County: Middlesex
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LadyKira
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14 Apr 2010 19:44 |
bingo
Name: Elizabeth Smith Record Type: Baptism Date: 10 May 1867 Father's Name: Henry Smith Mother's Name: Eliza Smith Parish: St Barnabas, Homerton Borough: Hackney County: Middlesex
Address & Brook street as with Elizabeth above
BUT entry on original parish register immediately above is
Harriett Smith 10 may 1867 dau of Frederick and Elizabeth shoemaker
In fact 5 smith children at same address and 3 different parents
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LadyKira
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14 Apr 2010 19:47 |
henry son of henry and eliza twine spinner John ditto Elzabeth William
David son of Jhn and Sarah twine spinner
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Wendy
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14 Apr 2010 19:52 |
2 Elizabeth Smiths to the same parents born 2 years apart? 14 Sep 1865 is Lizzie, later Elizabeth Cason. Who is the 10 May 1867? Or is that a typo, and Harriet's Baptism date?
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LadyKira
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14 Apr 2010 19:52 |
Name: Harrit Smith Record Type: Baptism Date: 15 Nov 1874 Father's Name: Henry Smith Mother's Name: Eliza Smith Parish: St Barnabas, Homerton Borough: Hackney County: Middlesex
father is rope maker same address
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