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Serena

Serena Report 18 Apr 2010 14:40

i am looking for elizabeth banks nee beard 1815-1881 i want to know weather her daughter elizabeth married some one called marchand they had one son in 1891 age three staying with grandfather william banks in the elms chailey who was a widow at that time , he also had a nother daughter called laura still living at home . thanks
serena

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 18 Apr 2010 14:48

This looks like the 3 year old's birth:-

Name: Victor William I Marchand
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Lambeth
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 5_9

The certificate would have his parent's full names on it.

At a guess this could be the father's birth (though you would need confirmation of this):-

Name: Alexander Albert Victor Isidore Marchand
Year of Registration: 1863
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Marylebone (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 438



Kath. x

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 18 Apr 2010 14:55

This is request is not clearly laid out so it is very difficult if not impossible to work out what you want.

Elizabeth Beard born somewhere between 1811 and 1881

married unknown Banks

daughter Elizabeth Banks
may have married unknown Marchand

Is the son unknown Marchand or Banks and son of which Elizabeth? c1888

Grandfather William Banks husband or father inlaw of Elizabeth Beard?
And who does Laura belong too?

Dea

Dea Report 18 Apr 2010 14:59

The 'Alexander Albert Victor Isidore Marchand' Kath mentions was married to 'Elizabeth Emma' - Did your Elizabeth have the middle name Emma?

Dea x

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 18 Apr 2010 14:59

1891 census - household transcription
Person: BANKS, William
Address: The Elms, North Common, Chailey
BANKS, William Head Widower M 62 1829 Butcher
Alfriston
Sussex VIEW
BANKS, Laura J Daughter Single F 29 1862
Alfriston
Sussex VIEW
SOUTHON, Elizabeth A Niece Single F 17 1874
Alfriston
Sussex VIEW
MARCHAND, Elizabeth E Daughter Married F 32 1859
Alfriston
Sussex VIEW
MARCHAND, Victor W J Grandson M 3 1888
Lambeth
Surrey VIEW
COTTINGHAM, Alice Servant Single F 13 1878 General Servant Domestic
Chailey
Sussex

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 18 Apr 2010 15:02

1881 census -
Address: 1, The Elms, Chailey
BANKS, William Head Married M 52 1829 Butcher 1 Master Employs 2 Men
Alfriston
Sussex
BANKS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 65 1816
Chailey Sussex
BANKS, Elizabeth E Daughter Single F 22 1859
Alfriston Sussex
BANKS, Laura J Daughter Single F 19 1862
Alfriston Sussex
SOUTHON, Rosabelle A Niece Single F 9 1872 Scholar
Wilmington Sussex
SOUTHON, Elizabeth A Niece Single F 7 1874 Scholar
Wilmington
Sussex
PILBEAM, William T Servant Single M 21 1860 Butcher Assistant
Battle
Sussex

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 18 Apr 2010 15:03

Just for reference - this is the 1891 census:-

Name: William Banks
Age: 62
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Alfriston, Sussex, England
Civil parish: Chailey
Ecclesiastical parish: Chailey St Peter
Town: Chailey
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Lewes
Sub-registration district: Chailey
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age

William Banks 62
Laura J Banks 29, daughter
Elizabeth A Southon 17, neice
Elizabeth E Banks 32, daughter, married
Victor W I Marchand 3, grandson
Alice Cottingham 13, servant

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 796; Folio 16; Page 6; GSU roll: 6095906.

I think Serena means that Elizabeth Banks (nee Beard) is the wife of this William (he was a widow in this census).

I can't find a marriage of the daughter Elizabeth E. to a Marchand (but they may not have actually married).

Kath. x

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 18 Apr 2010 15:04

1871 census -
Address: North Common Hooks, Chailey
BANKS, William Head M 42 1829 Sussex VIEW
BANKS, Elizabeth Wife F 55 1816 Sussex VIEW
GEORGE, Stanton Servant M 13 1858 Sussex VIEW
SMITH, Elizabeth Servant F 18 1853 Sussex

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 18 Apr 2010 15:07

This guy was boarding in Chailey


1871 census - household transcription
Person: MARCHAND, Alexander
Address: National School, Chailey
CROSS, Thomas Head M 53 1818 Essex VIEW
CROSS, Elizabeth Wife F 49 1822 Suffolk VIEW
CROSS, Elizabeth Daughter F 21 1850 Sussex VIEW
MARCHAND, Alexander Boarder M 8 1863 Middlesex VIEW
SYMONDSON, Warwick Boarder M 7 1864 Middlesex VIEW
STREATFIELD, Martha Servant F 17 1854 Sussex

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 18 Apr 2010 15:08

Alexandre Albert V I Marchand married 1887Jun Q Lewes 2b 274 but Ancestry does not give brides name.

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 18 Apr 2010 15:09

hm

Name: Claude Algernon Gibbins Marchand
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 27 Oct 1889
Father's Name: Alexandre Albert Victor Isidore Marchand lace wharehouseman
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Emma Marchand
Parish: Holy Trinity, Tulse Hill
Borough: Lambeth
County: Middlesex

Dea

Dea Report 18 Apr 2010 15:13

Bingo !!!..........

BANKS Elizabeth Emma Lewes.2b 274 2 1887

BEARD Emma Esther Lewes.2b 274 2 1887

BRISTOW Henry Lewes.2b 274 2 1887

MARCHAND Alexandre Albert V Lewes.2b 274 2 1887

MARCHAND Alexandre Victor A Lewes.2b 274 2 1887

Dea x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 18 Apr 2010 15:19

This is Elizabeth Emma's husband at home with young son Claude and a servant in the 1891 census:-

Name: Claude A G Marchand
Age: 1 6/12
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Alexander A V I
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England
Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Brixton
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 23 Deerbrook Road

Occupation: Lace Warehouseman

Condition as to marriage: married

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Norwood
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age

Alexander A V I Marchand 28
Clara A Marsh 36, servant - nurse
Claude A G Marchand 1 6/12, son

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 417; Folio 34; Page 19; GSU roll: 6095527.

Kath. x

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 18 Apr 2010 15:22

1911 census - household transcription
Person: MARCHAND, Alexander Albert Isidore
Address: 164 Willesden Lane Brondesbury
MARCHAND, Alexander Albert Isidore Head Married M 48 1863 Lace Merchant Marylebone London VIEW
MARCHAND, Elizabet Emma Wife Married
24 years F 52 1859 Alfriston Sussex VIEW
MARCHAND, Victor William Isidore Son Single M 22 1889 Lace Trade Tulse Hill Surrey VIEW
MARCHAND, Claude A Gibbons Son Single M 21 1890 Lace Trade Tulse Hill Surrey VIEW
MARCHAND, Mavin D Beat Daughter Single F 14 1897 School Croydon Surrey VIEW
MARSH, Clara Adora Single F 56 1855 Nurse Domestic Brixton Surrey VIEW
MORGAN, Eleanor Mary Single F 20 1891 Cook Domestic Swindon Wilts VIEW
GOMM, Florence Ruby Single F 16 1895 Housemaid Domestic Bradwell on Sea Essex

Dea

Dea Report 18 Apr 2010 15:24

This obviously connects but also confuses!!:

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Victor William Isidore Banks
Name: Victor William Isidore Banks
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 29 Apr 1888
Father's Name: Alexander Albert Victor Isidore Banks
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Emma Banks
Parish: Holy Trinity, Tulse Hill
Borough: Lambeth
County: Middlesex

Born 4th April, 1888 so after the marriage??


Dea x

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 18 Apr 2010 15:25

Elizabeth Emma Banks b 1859 Eastbourne

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 18 Apr 2010 15:50

Name: Alexander A V I Marchand
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Brixton
County/Island: London
Country: England


Employment status: View image

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Norwood
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander A V I Marchand 28
Clara A Marsh 36
Claude A G Marchand

Dea

Dea Report 18 Apr 2010 15:55

OOh - I just re-read to see why you were confused LadyKira but when I got back you were not confused any more !

Tee hee - It gets you like that doesn't it??

Dea x

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 18 Apr 2010 15:57

Oops you wern't supposed to see that. Will have to be quicker next time.


I have been looking at various records around this guy. I wonder if he was related. Geoffry was a JP

Name: Geoffrey Isidore Charles Marchand
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 21 Jul 1888
Father's Name: Isidore Henri Alphonse Marchand
Mother's Name: Annie Jane Marchand
Parish: St Andrew, Battersea
Borough: Wandsworth
County: Middlesex

Dea

Dea Report 18 Apr 2010 15:59

Looks like a VERY possible connection to me!

Dea x