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Can someone see if they can see this family in the 1851 census
Charles H Simpson 1825 newington
Hannah Simpson 1823 Islington
Alice Simpson 1847 Newington

I would think they would be living in the stoke newington area

thanks

jax

Alice Mary Simpson
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 21 Feb 1849
Father's Name: Charles Henry Simpson occ Book seller
Mother's Name: Hannah Simpson
Parish: Holy Trinity, Newington
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex

address Newington Causeway


Charles Edward Simpson
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 24 Sep 1848
Father's Name: Charles Henry Simpson
Mother's Name: Hannah Emma Simpson
Parish: Holy Trinity, Newington
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex

Still looking, and I have tried quite a few combinations.
Missing census page?

Well,

I also am baffled - they do not seem to be there.

When the children were christened the family was living at Newington Causeway and father was a bookseller.

I have checked all the properties on Newington Causeway on 1851 and the family are not listed. There is a booksellers + stationers shop at No 17 but now run by Sophia Appleyard and her niece - this 'may' be the same bookshop but they certainly are no longer there!

Dea x

Thanks for looking everyone
I will have to give up on that year then, I was hoping they may have lived with his parents as Im not sure who he married all I know is he may be a Charles too
edit - Ann seems like the likely candidate
jax

I think I have found Charles aged 15 with his Parents on the 1941 census
Charles 40 Stationer
Ann 34
Charles 15
St Mary Newington



Found a baptism for Charles Henry in 1837 but said he was born 1824 so I assume its him



Jax

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for reference

1861 census - household transcription
Person: SIMPSON, Charles H
Address: 60, Portland Street, St Mary Newington, Lambeth
SIMPSON, Charles H Head Married M 36 1825 Print...
Newington
Surrey VIEW
SIMPSON, Hannah Wife Married F 38 1823 Wife Print...
...
Middlesex VIEW
SIMPSON, Alice Daughter Unmarried F 12 1849 Scholar
Newington
Surrey VIEW
SIMPSON, Edward Son Unmarried M 9 1852 Scholar
Surrey VIEW
SIMPSON, Alfred Son Unmarried M 4 1857 Scholar
Surrey

Thats the right family Edward is my ancestor but obviously he wouldnt be in the 1851 census
edit Looks like the son Charles Edward died when he was 4 so if 1851 census is found there should be 2 children plus parents

Any chance of this being Hannah in 1851 do you think?

Name: Hannah Simpson
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1823
Relation: Servant
Where born: Pinner, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Camberwell
County/Island: Surrey

Married, nurse. Nurse of the domestic kind - she's in a list after Cook that goes House Maid, Nurse, Wet Nurse, Nursery Maid. It's a solicitor's household, with children aged 4, 3, 2 and 1.


Maybe a possible for Charles:

Name: Charles Sibson
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Relation: Pauper
Where born: Stroud, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Lambeth
ED, institution, or vessel: Lambeth Workhouse

Married, day labourer. There's a check in the disability column. Seems remote, just thought I'd throw it in.

This looks like that Charles:

Deaths Mar 1864
SIBSON Charles Newington 1d 227

Do you have the baptism for Edward 1852? The Address on that may give a clue.

I am sorry I hve spent a long time looking but I cannot find it.

Jax, is this the one you mean?

1841 England Census
about Charles Simpson
Name: Charles Simpson
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Gender: Male

Civil parish: St Mary Newington
Hundred: Brixton (Eastern Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: St Mary Newington
Sub-registration district: Trinity
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Simpson 40 <<Stationer
Ann Simpson 34
Charles Simpson 15


What beautiful hand writing on that census report. Pity they are not all like that!

Well, I have just spent another couple of hours (and the rest!! - tee hee!!), searching aimlessly for this family.

They are just NOT on the 1851 census...dratt!

Dea x

P.S. of course, unless the ones Janey found seperately are the parents but even so, where are the children?

I DO wish I wasn't so addicted as I know I will be back again looking later!

Dea x

Thanks again everyone for looking
I agree Ginny for once I could read it all, I think thats the right family in 1841 just going by the occupations.

It seems to me Ladykira that they only baptised the 1st two children unless they moved out of the area that comes into the london baptisms.

Janey Im not sure about the 2 you found Charles had always been a stationer or bookseller so it seems strange to change occupations and Hannah had 2 young children plus one on the way probably but obviously cannot rule them out

jax

I have just found the entry in the London deaths and burials for the young son Charles Edward Simpson b 1847 d 1851

It gives an address of Victoria Terrace which I assume is in Camberwell, seem to be getting a bit closer

jax

Victoria Terrace St Mary Newington.

Definitelt not there

That was August 1851 maybe after the census was done

One last try then I will give up on this census

About the 1851 censusThe 1851 census was taken on 30 March and gave the total population as 17,922,768.