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Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 1 May 2010 10:44

Hi Victoria.
I dont think I will find out much more do you,the 1871 Census has come to a dead end .
Thankyou all so much for your help
From Olive

Vicci

Vicci Report 1 May 2010 00:35

official birth registration didn't start until Sept 1837

ages on the census tend to be rounded

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 30 Apr 2010 23:51

Hi
His father James Whitts was born Warwick
Mother Ann ??? was born Mappersey Notts.
Sister Maryann was Born Canterbury
James was born Hastings.

They toured around

Olive

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 30 Apr 2010 23:47

Hi Victoria,
1851 Census gives James Whitts born 1837 Hasting Sussex,But I can not find him on B.M.D ,or I would send for his birth Certificate,then maybe I would know his mothers maiden name
Olive

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 30 Apr 2010 23:40

Hi Victoria
Thankyou all for all your effort in trying to trace James Whitts.

Will let you know if I find any thing?

Olive

Vicci

Vicci Report 30 Apr 2010 23:40

1841

this is the best fit but gives place of birth as warwickshire

James Whitts
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Gender: Male
Where born: Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: St Nicholas
Hundred: Warwick
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Warwick
Sub-registration district: Warwick
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
James Whitts 45
Anne Whitts 45
Mary Whitts 6
James Whitts 4


1851 census gives Mary Anne place of birth as Canturbury

Vicci

Vicci Report 30 Apr 2010 23:22

regarding the chronicle you need to download the software djvu (you can get on FMP)

however the text is (and not relevant to this search unfortunately)
ATHLETIC SPOETS, 1904-05.

Although several attempts were made to get up
aquatic sports at the Crater, our efforts were not
attended with much success. However, on New Year's
Day, a Water Polo Tournament was held ; six teams
entered for it, and after some exciting games the final
^ was won by Acting-Corporal Russell's team, Band No. 1 ;
Sergeant Bartlett's team. Band No. 2, being second.
A Tub Bace followed the Tournament, and was won by
Acting-Corporal Fowler, one competitor being seized by
a violent fit of sea-sickness the moment he got into his
tub. The last event was a Swimming Bace, distance
about 400 yards. Acting-Corporal Russell, swimming in
excellent style, won easily. Rifleman Waitt being second,
and Rifleman O'Meara third.

The Regimental Birthday Sports at the Crater,
Steamer Point, and Dhala, consisted chiefly of " Pagal "
events.

At the Crater a Swimming Race, distance 100 yards,
was won by Acting-Corporal Russell, Bugler West being
second, and Rifleman Jennison third.

An Egg-diving Competition at Dhala was a very



168 THE RIFLE BBIGADE CHRONICLE.

near thing, for one Rifleman, who got his head into the
tub and could not get it out again, narrowly escaped
drowning in consequence, amid the applause of the spec-
tators who thought he was still trying to get an egg !

The Obstacle Race was won by Acting- Corporal
Farris, with Bugler Kittle second, and Rifleman Grarrett
third.

In the Veterans' Race, Sergeant Vallins was first,
Colour- Sergeant Payne second, and Rifleman Witts
third. The 100 yards was won by Rifleman Purkiss,
with Rifleman Kilroy second, and Acting-Corporal Farris
third.


Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 30 Apr 2010 18:23

Hi Ann.
I wish maybe another day for gin and tonic.
Will have another look to morrow at the webb site.
Thankyou again.
From Olive



**Ann**

**Ann** Report 30 Apr 2010 17:04

Hi Ann oops! Olive lol.....have you been on the gin?

The problem is locating that part of the text without reading the whole book! Probably has nothing to do with him, but strange seeing that name as it is quite unusual.

Annx

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 30 Apr 2010 16:44

Hi Ann
Will be in touch again tomorrow.I have put my name as Ann sorry in the last reply and it is still afternoon!!
From Jean

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 30 Apr 2010 16:42

Hi Ann
I have tried to open the text but nothing up to now,will pass it to a relation and see if he can find any thing.

From Ann

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 30 Apr 2010 13:43

Full text of "The Rifle Brigade Chronicle"

If you google...James Whitts 3rd rifle brigade 1855 the above comes up with a rifleman WITTS in text, but Ill be blowed if I can bring it up in the text of the book............any clever people out there!!

Ann

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 30 Apr 2010 13:08

Afternoon Olive,

Dropped off the planet in the early hours, but see no result as yet in finding either.

I would have the same view as Gwyn, probably he is on tour somewhere and goodness knows where she is, probably mistranscribed and we are unable to find her. Although the Maria Mills servant may be a poss, you never know, maybe her employer thought she was 16 but then again the birth town is different.

The museum should have details of the regiments movements, I contacted the Black Watch museum re my grandad and got loads of info re his whereabouts, good job as his army records went up in smoke with the other WW1 records, also got a photo of him with his reg aged 17!

Annx

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 30 Apr 2010 08:49

Hi Victoria.
I have Emailed the Military Museum Winchester will let you know if I recieve a reply.
Olive

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 30 Apr 2010 08:31

Hi
Good morning.
I will get in touch with Winchester Military Museum re James Whitts born 1837 Sussex

Thats another thing I can not find his birth ,also his mother maiden name Ann??? or his Mother and Father Marriage Certificate.

Bye for now
Olive

Vicci

Vicci Report 30 Apr 2010 02:35

BTW some Chelsea pensioner records are on FMP now, can't find him though!

Vicci

Vicci Report 30 Apr 2010 02:17

I read on another thread recently that it was common for the bride and groom to out the same address as this cut down on the cost of having the banns read.

it would also be worth getting on touch with the military museum in Winchester, they may have info on which battalions were stationed there and which wars they had been in.

Vicci

Vicci Report 30 Apr 2010 01:45

1851

James Whitte
[James Whitts]
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Hastings, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Leamington Priors
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Warwick
Sub-registration district: Budbrooke
ED, institution, or vessel: 1m
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 50
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Whitte 59
Mary Ann Whitte 16
James Whitte 14
Robert Johnson 36
Mary Johnson 28
Robert Johnson 14
Mary Johnson 6
William Johnson 1
John Dancan Mc Intoch Johnson 6 Mo

1861 mother on her own

Ann Whitts
Age: 67
Estimated birth year: abt 1794
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Mallersey, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Leamington
Town: Leamington
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Warwick
Sub-registration district: Leamington
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 222
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Whitts 67


Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 30 Apr 2010 01:40

I'm still looking for him.

He could have been out of the country though.....

In 1974 I lived in Winchester.
I was unmarried in 1971 census, but between those times I married, lived overseas and returned to England.
It's rather a mobile existance, I'm afraid.!

Gwyn

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 30 Apr 2010 01:33

Hi Gwyn
Thankyou ,maybe James lived there at the army barracks in 1871 Census
Olive