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Unlikely Ellen if you read page one of the thread, you will see that in 1841 his birth was about 1821.

I doubt his birth was c 1821 .Married in 1837.Isabella states 1851 census c1813 -5 years out.She is a widow by 1851. You need to see the filches for the deaths.

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CATHARINE GARDNER Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 17 APR 1824

Christening: 25 APR 1824 Madderty, Perth, Scotland

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOHN GARDNER Family
Mother: JANET DRUMMOND


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C113784 1820 - 1854 1040332 Film 6901892 Film

C113784 1880 1040332 Film NONE

Family Connection

Isabel's parents - as posted by Linda at 12.08



Isabel's parents were William McPherson and Ann McPherson nee Christie (deceased). Isabel died on 14/11/1883 in something?? Strathmiglo, age 67 years Father William McPherson, Mason (deceased) died of old age (not certified), informant possible Ken Campbell son in law. It does state Widow of William Gardiner something??? labourer.

I wonder if this Blackford family is related to William?

1841

Piece: SCT1841/333 Place: Blackford -Perth Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Blackford Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 1 Page: 19
Address: Blackford New Street



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Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
GARDINER Peter M 73 Ag Lab Perth
GARDINER Janet F 35 Perth
GARDINER Isabella F 30 Perth
GARDINER William M 6 Perth
GARDINER Margaret F 6 Perth

Rootgather Isabella was bapts 1808 Crieff

Cemetery Records
1.Blackford Churchyard

2.Gleneagles

3.Tullibardine

The interment register for 1 is available at the local council offices in Crieff. Please consult the cemeteries page

There are pre 1855 inscriptions available for all in Monumental inscriptions (pre-1855) in South Perthshire

1851 Census
Name: Peter Gardner -Ag.Lab.
Age: 82
Estimated birth year: abt 1769
Relationship: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Blackford, Perthshire
Parish Number: 333
Civil parish: Blackford
County: Perthshire
Address: New Street
Occupation: Ag Lab
ED: 1
Page: 38 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 180
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1851_72
Household Members: Name Age
Peter Gardner 82
Janet Gardner 40
Elisabeth Gardner 35
Margaret Gardner 30 Great Grandchild
Jean Gardner 26
Margaret Gardner 16
William Gardner 16
Mary Ann Gardner

All born in Blackford

1861 Census

Name: Isabella Gardener
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1815
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Crcoft, Perthshire
Registration Number: 333
Registration district: Blackford
Civil parish: Blackford
County: Perthshire
Address: Old Street
Occupation: Shirt Maker
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 22
Line: 15
Roll: CSSCT1861_47
Household Members: Name Age
Isabella Gardener 46
Peter Gardener 22
Ann Gardener 18
William Gardener 14

Source Citation: Parish: Blackford; ED: 1; Page: 5; Line: 15; Roll CSSCT1861_47; Year: 1861.



Perhaps Isabella just couldn't remember when she was born or she had an older sibling that had died - not uncommon for parents to use the same name twice.

ISABEL GARDNER Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 19 JAN 1801 Blackford, Perth, Scotland

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: PETTER GARDNER Family
Mother: MARGARET CAIRNS


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C113334 1783 - 1820 0993481 Film 6903053 Film


Sheet: 00

PETTER GARDNER Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: MARGARET CAIRNS Family
Marriage: 29 JAN 1798 Blackford, Perth, Scotland



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

M113334 1787 - 1820 0993481 Film 6903054 Film


Sheet: 00

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PETER GARDNER Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: JUL 1777 Blackford, Perth, Scotland

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: CHARLES GARDNER Family
Mother: JANET GUILD


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C113332 1738 - 1782 0993481 Film 6903053 Film


Sheet: 00

? on the 1881 census

Name: Isabella Gardener
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Relationship: Mother
Gender: Female
Where born: Crieff, Perthshire
Registration Number: 374
Registration district: Logie
Civil parish: Logie
County: Clackmannanshire
Address: Old Bridge
Occupation: Annuitant
ED: 12
Household schedule number: 74
Line: 1
Roll: cssct1881_106
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Gardener 42
Robert Gardener 14
Christina Gardener 11
Isabella Gardener 4
Ann Gardener 4
William Gardener 2
Isabella Gardener 60

Thank you everyone for this information it is great to know so many people have an interest in their family trees and have the oportunity to help others. i will check out all of your information and hopefully i can crack the gardiner family. Regards Linda

For information purposes.
Copied from a posting on TalkingScot.

There is a Burial Register for Perth cemeteries held in the Local Archives at the A K Bell Library in Perth, but it only starts in 1790s. However, the local archivists are very helpful and it would certainly be worth giving them a call to find out what else might be available (Perth & Kinross Council Archive, AK Bell Library, York Place, PERTH PH2 8EP Tel 01738 477012 Email [email protected]).

Also, this is what it says on the Perth & Kinross Council website:

"Bereavement Services
The Crematorium,
Crieff Road, PERTH PH1 2PE
Tel 01738 446865

There are 143 burial grounds and a crematorium administered by the Council.It is advisable to telephone ahead of any visit. Surviving registers are:


Crieff area: Aberuthven, Ardoch, Auchterarder Cemetery, Auchterarder Old, Blackford,Braco, Comrie, Crieff Cemetery, Dundurn, Dunning, Glendevon, Findo Gask,Fowlis Wester, Logiealmond Cemetery, Logiealmond Churchyard,Methven Cemetery, Methven Churchyard, Monzie, Muthill Cemetery,Muthill Old, Monzievaird and Strowan, and Trinity Gask.

Might be worth a phone call or email Linda.

Kind Regards
Kath

If William Gardner folllowed the Scottish naming process ,then Peter Gardner was his Father.First born son after father's father .First daughter after Mother's Mother.In this case first daughter after William's Gran Janet Guild