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Hi, this is for a friend.

I am looking for her uncle - Ronald or Roland Humphries who, for some reason unknown to her was known as Roland Prince.

I have found him as Ronald P. Humphries on the 1911, stating he was born in 1908. They are living at Droxford in Hampshire.

I have traced the other siblings ie.,
Margaret Eileen b.1900
Annie Violet b.1902
Betty Iris b.1904
William Lacy b.1905
All born in Herefordshire.

I have found the parents, William and Annie on the 1901 living in Herefordshire

I cannot, however, find Roland/Ronald's birth

Could someone take a look to see what I am missing please?

Many thanks. Cx.

Births Jun 1907 (>99%)
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HUMPHRIES Rowland Prince Hereford 6a 482

Thank you Flick. I didn't think about the other way of spelling the name and he is down as Ronald on the 1911 which threw me a little.......and 'tis late!

Very grateful for your time. Love, Cx.

My pleasure - a bit of a fluke, really!

Love, Flick x

Well, I thought it would be relatively simple to wend my weary way back through the census.....huh!

I tried to find William on the 1891....but I simply can't - not under the birthplace of Prescot anyway. I even checked through all of the entries for Prescot in 1891.....zilch.

Here is the entry for 1901

Name: William Humphries
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Prescott, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Holme Lacy
Ecclesiastical parish: Holme Lacy St Cuthbert
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hereford
Sub-registration district: Dewchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 58
Household Members: Name Age
William Humphries 41
Annie Humphries 30
Margaret E Humphries 5 months

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2477; Folio: 47; Page: 9.


I have also checked on the igi - no success there either.

The family is on the 1911 living at Droxford in Hampshire but I don't have access to see where William states his place of birth.

So...I give up....again......such a failure !! Any help would be gratefully received. Thanks. Cx.

this them ?


HUMPHRIES, Willam Head Married M 48 1863 Head Gardener Domestic Lanes Presevt VIEW
HUMPHRIES, Annie Wife Married
12 years F 40 1871 Derbyshire Dother LY VIEW
HUMPHRIES, Margaret E Daughter F 10 1901 School Hereford Holme Lacy VIEW
HUMPHRIES, Annie V Daughter F 8 1903 Hereford Holme Lacy VIEW
HUMPHRIES, Bettey I Daughter F 6 1905 Hereford Holme Lacy VIEW
HUMPHRIES, William L Son M 5 1906 Hereford Holme Lacy VIEW
HUMPHRIES, Ronald P Son M 3 1908 Hereford Holme Lacy VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6150 Reference:
RG14PN6150 RG78PN286 RD104 SD1 ED6 SN18

Registration District:
Droxford Sub District:
Bishops Waltham Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Durley

Address:
The Lodger Shakemoor Near Bottey County:
Hampshire


Place of birth of William is Prescott, Lancs !

1911:


HUMPHRIES, Willam Head Married M 48 1863 Head Gardener Domestic Lanes Presevt VIEW
HUMPHRIES, Annie Wife Married 12 years F 40 1871 Derbyshire Dother LY VIEW
HUMPHRIES, Margaret E Daughter F 10 1901 School Hereford Holme Lacy VIEW
HUMPHRIES, Annie V Daughter F 8 1903 Hereford Holme Lacy VIEW
HUMPHRIES, Bettey I Daughter F 6 1905 Hereford Holme Lacy VIEW
HUMPHRIES, William L Son M 5 1906 Hereford Holme Lacy VIEW
HUMPHRIES, Ronald P Son M 3 1908 Hereford Holme Lacy VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6150 Reference:
RG14PN6150 RG78PN286 RD104 SD1 ED6 SN18

Registration District:
Droxford Sub District:
Bishops Waltham Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Durley

Address:
The Lodge Shakemoor Near Bottey County:
Hampshire


Dea x

Hi, thank you both.

Yes, that's them.......so he's still sticking to Prescot....more or less! Mind you, his dob has altered slightly.

Hmmmmm???? Cx.

this is the only one I can see -


Births Jun 1863 (>99%)
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HUMPHREYS William Prescot 8b 536

Thanks Choccy, he seems to be the nearest birth doesn't he?

I did wonder if he just said he was from 'Liverpool' on the 1891 but that's a lot of guesswork! Cx

Cough?

Thank you for passing through Fan. lol Cx.

cough cough

Hmmm

So are we sposed to be lookin for owt else then.

I cant find him on 1891 anyway,so scratch that..
What now ?

Or is this him in 1891??

HUMPHREYS, William Lodger Single M 32 1859 Gardener Domestic
Barton Under Greenwood
Staffs

RG number:
RG12 Piece:
3009 Folio:
125 Page:
6

Registration District:
Prescot Sub District:
Huyton Enumeration District:
8 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Marys

Civil Parish:
Knowsley Municipal Borough:
Address:
Knowsley Lane, Knowsley County:
Lancashire

Or this

WHEATLY, Samuel Head Married M 72 1819 Timber & Coal Agent
Holme
Nottinghamshire
Pierrepoint
WHEATLY, Eliza Wife Married F 67 1824
Nottingham
Nottinghamshire
HUMPHREY, William Boarder Single M 31 1860 Gardener
Northumberland
Harrowden
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
2737 Folio:
133 Page:
22

Registration District:
Derby Sub District:
Derby Enumeration District:
75 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Anne

Civil Parish:
St Alkmund Municipal Borough:
Derby Address:
12, West Avenue, St Alkmund, Derby County:
Derbyshire

Obviously it's catching!! sigh......

Oh FBG, I'm so sorry, I missed your 2nd contribution - overcome by a fit of coughing!

Well, I suppose he could be either of them because he was certainly a gardener. I will try and find out if my friend can offer a little more information to help us along.

You know I am really grateful don't you! Cx.

Edit.....I'm going to stick my neck out for the first one. The election must be getting to me! xx

and yet.......there are references to Derby on both census and he married a girl from Derby! I've looked through to see if he married either of the two Annies I could find on both census but no joy. Mind you, I could be doing it all wrong of course! Cx.

It seems to me that your friend will have to put their hand in their pocket and buy one of the childrens birth certs for the mothers maiden name Cynth ,there are just too many possibilities for a marriage of the parents.
But none seem in the right places and time except of one to an Annie Brown in Lancs

So Annies maiden name is needed..

Unless there were some later children born after june 1911 of course when it would come up on index?

Thanks FBG. I will pass this on to my friend and see how far she wants to proceed with this. I think her first query was to why they named their son Rowland Prince...!! I just wondered if it had been a surname of someone way back. You're a little gem really. Thanks. Cx.

I searched for that name under the Marriages,also Lacy,but Lacy seems to be taken from the place they lived,Prince is anyones guess..!