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Looks like then Thomas Evans is the Farmer and David Evans my great Grandfather was a labourer working for him. What has happened to Daniel Lewis , Marthas dad. He must have passes away then and sold the farm if hit ever was his in the first place mmmmm puzzling .....

I will try as you suggested those sites but i am honest and not very good although learning. Thanyou so much for your continued support your wonderful lady. Hazel

got it!!!!!! 1881 i think the image says married for David but it is hard to read
Name: Thomas W. Evans
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Michaelston, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil parish: Baglan Lower
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: Blaen Baglan Farm
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Farmer Of 500 Acres Employing 2 Labourers


Name: David Evans
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanwonno, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Civil parish: Baglan Lower
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: Blaen Baglan Farm
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Agricultural Laborer
Registration district: Neath



Name: Benjamin Pergrine
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanwonno, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Civil parish: Baglan Lower
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: Blaen Baglan Farm
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Agricultural Laborer


Name: Mary Davies
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Michaelston, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil parish: Baglan Lower
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: Blaen Baglan Farm
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: General Servant Domestic

not sure where David is in 1881 yet., of course if he is married we don't know his wife's name to find a match. You might like to have a look
You can search 1881 census for free on
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp
or this one which also has some of the other years as well(pages are being transcribed and put on here all the time)

http://www.freecen.org.uk/

You do not have to fill all the boxes (sometimes less is best!) and year of birth you may need to put +/-

you may also find that you can use the ancestry site in your local library giving you access to the other census years and as you live in the area the local family history society may have transcribed local censuses etc . have not been able to see who was at the farm in 1881 yet either.
Will keep trying!

oh Jan thnkyou again for the time you have given me . Cant brleive it yes they are the right family . fancy you helping me like this you are wonderful .I put my lap top on go straight to genes and you have yet again helped me. I never thought i would get get all this info.David the man who family you just found for me was a widower . Maybe i could see when his wife died . Wonder why he came all this way to cwmafan about 60 miles and then met and married my great grandmother. Oh i find it intriguing and fascinating. Hazel.

?1851 Evans family
Name: David Evans
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: David
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanwenog, Cardiganshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Llanwenog
County/Island: Cardiganshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Lampeter

Name: David Evans
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Llansiliogogo, Cardiganshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Llanwenog
County/Island: Cardiganshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Lampeter


Name: Margaret Evans
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: David
Gender: Female
Where born: Troedyraur, Cardiganshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Llanwenog
County/Island: Cardiganshire
Country: Wales



Name: William Evans
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's Name: David
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Llandysil, Cardiganshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Llanwenog
County/Island: Cardiganshire

? I think perhaps we have the right families in 1901,1891 1881 and 1871 but need to confirm 1861 and 1851 are right?

yes Jan you are right thanks to you amazing. Hazel.

Good start then looks like we have the right family in 1901(address as daughter's marriage cert0

thanks Jan for your continued support.I put Marthas details in searsh tree born in Shotleybridge Durham etc and put a search out to other trees as you suggested but it said no match with anyone.I have the marriage certificate of my grandmother Ann evans who is marthas and Davids only child.Says she lived at 21 Park Row when she got married 11.10.1900.got the birth certificate of Marthas husbund David Evans sys he was born 16.7.1848 at Rhowyndu Llanwenog Lampeter whicch is Carmarthenshire near Pembrokshire .His dad was called David also and his mum Margaret.got the marriage certificate of Martha and David Evans 11.2.18183. says they were both 34 years old but doesnt give year of both for either.Says he was a widower and martha was a widow.Says he was a farm labourer and lived at Blaen bAGLAN FARM bRITTON fERRY Neath.His dad was deceased.Marthas dad Daniel Lewis was a Farmer . Martha lived at Davies Row Cwmafan at the time of her marriage.Think Cwmafan was called Michaelstone Lower in those day..Thats all the info i have Jan. Thankyou again for your time. Hazel.

Hazel there is a Daniel lea with a Martha Lewis Lanchester 1845 if you put it in search trees above. you could send him a message to see if its a match,he may be able to confirm details we have.

Do you have any birth,marriage death certs that gives info of ages ,occupation's addresses etc.

http://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/searchresults.php


From the above site IF i have found the right family in 1851 this looks like their baptism

Last name = Lewis, with Father = Daniel Father's Surname = Lewis Mother = Ann in all districts in Baptisms...Marriages...Burials...
Page 1: records 1 through 2 of 2 matches found.
Record Type District Forename Surname Birth Year Event Year Birthplace (census) or
Abode (parish recs)
Baptisms Lanchester Daniel Lewis 1849 Consett
Baptisms Lanchester Martha Lewis 1849 Consett

This looks like the1851 family in 1861.if i have the right family
?(not the one of her i posted before of Martha as a servant)?
Name: Daniel Lewis
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Merthyr, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Aberdare
Town: Aberdare
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Lewis 46
Ann Lewis 42
Daniel Lewis 12 Where born: Shotleybridge, Durham, England
William Lewis 8 Where born: Measteg, Glamorgan, Wales
Jacob Lewis 1 Where born: Measteg, Glamorgan, Wales
Mary Ann Lewis 20 Where born: Dowlais, Glamorgan, Wales
Martha Lewis 18 Where born: Dowlais, Glamorgan, Wales
Lattisha Lewis 16 Where born: Shotly Bridge, Durham, England
Ann Lewis 5 Where born: Measteg, Glamorgan, Wales

* i think Martha AND Lattisha detail's have been swapped*

Thankyou Jan. I live in the village of Cwmafan myself then Cwmafan was the town ,now the town is Port talbot. Neath is about 8 miles from us and thats where the registry office is. Pembroke is about 60 miles away and i thought up until now David Evans Marthas second husbund came from Pembrokeshire , but he gives his birth place as Cwmafan, Lanchester is about 2oo miles or more from us i imagine . We are in South Wales right down the centre bottom 3 miles from coast, Thankyou Jan once again Hazel.

yes i was wondering about that. Sometimes it was just copied from the entry name above it as it wasn't filled in by themselves until 1911 census . I will look back at the images to see if i can work anything out!! As i said not being good at Welsh places i will look at a map and see how far apart places are from each other.

sorry to be a nag Jan.I know you must be very busy. Its just that with Martha Mathias there are three or four different places where she was born? Durham England, Punchston Pembroke, Neath and Cwmafan . Why would she put 4 different birth places have you any idea. Hazel Smith

MIGHT be 1st husbands death
Name: William Mathias
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Year of Registration: 1879
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 39
District: Neath (1837-1970)
County: Breconshire, Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 309

glad i could help as not very good at info on Wales (all these places with long names !!!!!!!!!!!)

might be worth you trying to find some of the names in search trees above, you might find some connection

There might be someone with Daniel Lewis 1827 Neath if that helps

possible 1861 she is a servant and i wonder if Mary Ann is her sister from 1851 census?

*think this may now be wrong another possible 1861 is on page 2*
Name: Martha Lewis
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Roath
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Name: Mary Ann Lewis
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Roath
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales


Household Members:
Name Age
Joshua Evans 30
Jane Evans 23
Thomas Evans 4
Mary Ann Lewis 21
David Vaughan 13
Elizabeth Jenkins 21
Martha Lewis 17

Jan you are a treasure cant brleive it . I am 56 and wondered all my life about this part of my family. How can i thankyou .I double excited now lol. Jan you made me so happy. how can i thankyou ? Hazel