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Hi Rootgatherer, sorry I was not here, houserwork and shopping LOL.William Henry was a paperhanger on the marriage cert and living in Theberton Street, Islington. I cannot be sure That I have found hime on the 19114 census because there are too many of them, also he was a widower so may have been still married at the time of the census. I just go round in circles with this one.
Chrissy

What was William's occupation on the 1913 marriage certificate please? Have you found him on the 1911 census?

Sorry about that, I'm back now.

Sorry I have to go off the board now but will come back later. Chrissy

Hi Rootgatherer, I have his Marriage cert and his death cert here, but got his birthday from my mothers birthday book. Age on the marriage cert is 53

Where did you get his exact date of birth from please? What age did he give on his marriage certificate to Annie Tester? Is that where you got his father's name and occupation?

Hi there you lovely people, I still have not found out where William Henry Howard was born. I have a sneaking suspicion that he was born in Ireland somewhere near Dublin.
Information so far, Born 14/5/1859. Father William Howard (Master Plumber). I have no idea what his Mother's name was.
Not much to go on is it?
Can anyone help here please?
Chrissy

So that is the right family.

Ann's dad william 1837 Lincolnshire married louisa Willis in Edmonton O/N/D 1861 V3a Page 160.

The same lady who is on here with elizabeth emma william etc also has louisa Willis.

Louisa willis born @ 1841 in Colchester essex.

She could have actually been Laura Louisa,

On Ancestry it says Emily,Elizabeth,William Teaster born to Laura Louisa and William Teaster.
On 1871 William teaster with Lora (Laura)
On 1881 William with Sarah but that could be the transcribers.

Glad we got a result,and it is almost certain it is the same family.

Maryb

Hi Mary, you are brilliant that is the connection. I have a memorial card for Joseph wilson may from my mothers old papers. I might sleep tonight now. Thanks a million Chrissy

You can get copies of any certs from

www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates

Cost is £9.25 each

You need to register first (free0. Tick the box when asked if full GRO ref known. You will need the Volume 1b and page 495.

Certs take about 5 days to arrive. Don't buy from anywhere else that charge even more.

Andy

In 1881 Ann was with William and Sarah,
If it is the same one she had sister Elizabeth 1868
Emma 1870 I think this should be emily and she died 1874.
William 1870/1

Elizabeth married 1896 to Joseph WILSON May born Guilford Surrey 1870.

I noticed Annie and William Henry Howard had in 1913 son Henry WILSON Eliot Howard and wondered if there were a connection there.

There is a lady on here with
Elizabeth
Emma
William but no Ann,I wonder if it would be worth contacting her.

Maryb

Edit just noticed you said there was connection to surname MAY
so that 's another one to go with Joseph Wilson may married to Elizabeth Teaster.

Thankyou all of you for your time and effort, I will do as you suggest Rootgatherer and buy the marriage cert. I know this sounds dumb but how do I go about that? I am in Cornwall. Can I do it through Genes or do I have to write to somewhere? I am new to all this. Thanks Chrissy

Chrissy - I can't see any shortcuts! It looks like you have to buy Annie and William's marriage certificate then come back to the thread with the details.

Don't delete the thread, just add the details from the marriage when you get them and we will find the thread and look for them on census records.

Maybe not that one as she seems to be married in 1901

Name: Annie E Tester
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Harry F
Gender: Female
Where born: Brixton, London, England

Civil parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour Brixton Hill
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 199
Household Members: Name Age
Harry F Tester 29
Annie E Tester 26
Herbert H Tester 3
Frederick H Tester 6 months
Owen J Tester 23

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 427; Folio: 72; Page: 30.

Possible - but you need the marriage certificate to confirm her father's name and occupation.

HOUSEHOLD TESTER ANNIE ELIZABETH F 1875 36 Wandsworth London

maybe living with

HOUSEHOLD TESTER DAISY ELIZA F 1889 22 Wandsworth London
HOUSEHOLD TESTER ELIZA LAVINA F 1868 43 Wandsworth London
HOUSEHOLD TESTER FREDERICK HOWARD M 1901 10 Wandsworth London
HOUSEHOLD TESTER GEORGE M 1868 43 Wandsworth London
HOUSEHOLD TESTER HARRY FREDERICK M 1872 39 Wandsworth London
HOUSEHOLD TESTER HERBERT HENRY M 1898 13 Wandsworth London
HOUSEHOLD TESTER HERBERT THOMAS GEORGE M 1891 20 Wandsworth London
HOUSEHOLD TESTER LITIE FLORANCE F 1893 18 Wandsworth London



Perhaps someone with a sub. for the 1911 will check that out please?

Possible death for Annie

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Annie Howard
Name: Annie Howard
Death Registration Month/Year: 1926
Age at death (estimated): 52
Registration district: Camberwell
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 595

Andy

Grandmother died in 1926 in Camberwell. I don't know the exact date but I do know her birthday was 1st December. Is this any help?

wonder if this is a connection - 1881

Jacob TESTER Head M Male 40 Wadhurst, Sussex, England Carpenter House
Eliza TESTER Wife M Female 38 Burwell, Cambridge, England
Ada L. A. TESTER Daur Female 6 Windsor, Canada
Rhoda TESTER Daur Female 2 Camberwell, Surrey, England
William TESTER Son Male 1 m Camberwell, Surrey, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 88 New Church Rd
Census Place Camberwell, Surrey, England
Family History Library Film 1341161
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0695 / 99
Page Number 36

Do you know roughly when and where your Grandmother died please? That would give us an approximate year of birth to work with.

Sorry about all the questions - just trying to build up a picture!

Possible 1881 census for Annie. You will need a copy of 1913 marriage to make sure fathers details agree,

1881 England Census
about Ann Teaster
Name: Ann Teaster
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Clapham, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Clapham
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 9 Carfax Square
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: None

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Clapham
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Teaster 44 born Lincoln, blind
Sarah Teaster 40 born Colchester
Elizabeth Teaster 13
Ann Teaster 6


Andy