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Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 25 May 2010 18:41

Evening Jim....
I am sure if you ask someone on here they will help you out with the info you need..I do not use Ancestry or would do it for you...
Does it give you a number of the House in Borris Road where Edward was born (Daft question really when we didnt have them ..but there is a Lizzie Brophy (69yrs) living at house No.9 on the 1911 census...thought at first she may have been Margarets Mother..but Margarets age on the 1911 Census tends to dispel that theory....
I have not seen your original thread with the Baptismal dates etc.
What made you think Edwards father was also in the Army...?

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 25 May 2010 18:51

Jim....
This is the entry from the Barracks...

Dempsey Patk 18 Male - Roman Catholic Queens Co Ag Labourer Read and write - Single

jimbo659

jimbo659 Report 26 May 2010 10:50

Hi Eringobragh,
I don't have a house number but Lulabelle did find the entry in the 1911 census which gave the address as Quality Row.
I agree that it is unlikely that Lizzie Brophy was Margarets mother, but I suppose it depends on how young people got married in that day & age.
My thinking that Richard was also in the army was erroneous! I had a senior moment and confused Richard with Patrick (who was Edwards brother). Sorry for any confusion I have caused.
I'm sorry about not posting the baptism records. I received them 5 years ago from Irish Midlands Ancestry. They are a copy of the Portlaoise Parish Baptismal records. The information headings are YEAR,MONTH, SURNAME, CHILD, FATHER, MOTHER, PAGE and the information is as follows:
1882, 10, Dempsey, Edward, Richard, Margaret Brophey, 89.
1883, 11, Dempsey, Mary Anne, Richard, Margaret Brophey, 100
1885, 1, Dempsey, Thomas, Richard, Margaret Brophey, 110.
1886, 3, Dempsey, John, Richard, Margaret Brophey, 119.
1887, 10, Dempsey, Serah, Richard, Margaret Brophey, 131.
1888, 112, Dempsey, Chistie, Richard, Margaret Brophey. 139.
1890, 9, Dempsey, Julia Agnes, Richard, Margaret Brophey, 153.
1892, 5, Dempsey, Joseph, Richard, Margaret Brophey, 2.
1894, 3, Dempsey, Patrick, Richard, Margaret Brophey, 16.
1895, 6, Dempsey, Richard, Richard, Margaret Brophey, 26.
1896, 10, Dempsey, John Joseph, Richard, Margaret Brophey, 38.

Once again thanks so much for all the help you have given.
regards
Jim

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 26 May 2010 11:15

Morning Jim....

Will have a look at the Baptisms and see what I can gleam from the info.
There were a few Dempsey families in the MountM/Marybro.area and each named the children more or less the same..as you know this does confuse matters somewhat...
I would put Jeremiah on hold at the moment as he may have been the son of Michaeal Dempsey and Ellen Cotter who also had a son named Edward ...He is listed as living in Marybro.aged 27yrs. (1911) with wife and son Richard aged 1...
I imagine the families are all related through Richard sen.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 26 May 2010 16:18

Jim...Have been searching around Marybro.Found the following..keep hold for later ref.

1826....Tithes.

Marybr.East Barony. Parish Straboe.
Dempsey. Patrick
Dempsey.John.

Marybro.East Barony.Parish of Borris.
Dempsey.Richard.


Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 26 May 2010 16:29

Jim....
Head of Household 1901 Census...Marybro.Urban. (full Census should be out in late June)

Anne Dempsey. Lyster lane
Julia Dempsey.Main St.

Mary Dempsey . Abbeyleix Rd.
Nannie Dempsey .Abbeyleix Rd.
Richard Dempsey. Borris Rd

There is also a Charlie Brophey listed HOH. Borris Rd. Wonder if he is Margarets Family..




Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 26 May 2010 18:10

Jim. Mountmellick RC Marriages 1814-1819...No place names or other details given.(As Written)

James Dempsey and Margo Right. 4 Nov 1819
John Dempsey and Anne Scully. 4 May 1817.
Michael Dempsey and Anne McEvoy 20 ?October 1814
Patt.Dempsey and Betty O'Brien.27 Nov 1818
**Richard Dempsey and Dolly Prendergast 23 Jan 1818***
Wm.Dempsey and Brid.Dunn 16 Jan 1819

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 26 May 2010 19:09

Jim...Dempsey's Buried in Portl.Cem....


Bridget Dempsey
Bridget Dempsey
Edward Dempsey
James Dempsey
Joseph Dempsey
Laurence Dempsey
Margaret Dempsey
Margaret Dempsey
Patrick Dempsey
*Richard Dempsey*
Rosanna Dempsey


Have sent you a PM (personal Message) just check in " Message Box"

jimbo659

jimbo659 Report 27 May 2010 09:31

Hi Eringobragh
many thanks for all the info you sent me yesterday and for that which you sent by PM
You have given me a lot of work for which I thank you

regards
Jim

jimbo659

jimbo659 Report 28 May 2010 07:38

Hi All,
just in case anybody tries to contact me in the next week. I am going to visit my son and will not have computer access again until 4th June.
Many thanks for all your help so far.
Regards
Jim