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Hi All,
just in case anybody tries to contact me in the next week. I am going to visit my son and will not have computer access again until 4th June.
Many thanks for all your help so far.
Regards
Jim
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Hi Eringobragh
many thanks for all the info you sent me yesterday and for that which you sent by PM
You have given me a lot of work for which I thank you
regards
Jim
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Jim...Dempsey's Buried in Portl.Cem....
Bridget Dempsey
Bridget Dempsey
Edward Dempsey
James Dempsey
Joseph Dempsey
Laurence Dempsey
Margaret Dempsey
Margaret Dempsey
Patrick Dempsey
*Richard Dempsey*
Rosanna Dempsey
Have sent you a PM (personal Message) just check in " Message Box"
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Jim. Mountmellick RC Marriages 1814-1819...No place names or other details given.(As Written)
James Dempsey and Margo Right. 4 Nov 1819
John Dempsey and Anne Scully. 4 May 1817.
Michael Dempsey and Anne McEvoy 20 ?October 1814
Patt.Dempsey and Betty O'Brien.27 Nov 1818
**Richard Dempsey and Dolly Prendergast 23 Jan 1818***
Wm.Dempsey and Brid.Dunn 16 Jan 1819
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Jim....
Head of Household 1901 Census...Marybro.Urban. (full Census should be out in late June)
Anne Dempsey. Lyster lane
Julia Dempsey.Main St.
Mary Dempsey . Abbeyleix Rd.
Nannie Dempsey .Abbeyleix Rd.
Richard Dempsey. Borris Rd
There is also a Charlie Brophey listed HOH. Borris Rd. Wonder if he is Margarets Family..
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Jim...Have been searching around Marybro.Found the following..keep hold for later ref.
1826....Tithes.
Marybr.East Barony. Parish Straboe.
Dempsey. Patrick
Dempsey.John.
Marybro.East Barony.Parish of Borris.
Dempsey.Richard.
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Morning Jim....
Will have a look at the Baptisms and see what I can gleam from the info.
There were a few Dempsey families in the MountM/Marybro.area and each named the children more or less the same..as you know this does confuse matters somewhat...
I would put Jeremiah on hold at the moment as he may have been the son of Michaeal Dempsey and Ellen Cotter who also had a son named Edward ...He is listed as living in Marybro.aged 27yrs. (1911) with wife and son Richard aged 1...
I imagine the families are all related through Richard sen.
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Hi Eringobragh,
I don't have a house number but Lulabelle did find the entry in the 1911 census which gave the address as Quality Row.
I agree that it is unlikely that Lizzie Brophy was Margarets mother, but I suppose it depends on how young people got married in that day & age.
My thinking that Richard was also in the army was erroneous! I had a senior moment and confused Richard with Patrick (who was Edwards brother). Sorry for any confusion I have caused.
I'm sorry about not posting the baptism records. I received them 5 years ago from Irish Midlands Ancestry. They are a copy of the Portlaoise Parish Baptismal records. The information headings are YEAR,MONTH, SURNAME, CHILD, FATHER, MOTHER, PAGE and the information is as follows:
1882, 10, Dempsey, Edward, Richard, Margaret Brophey, 89.
1883, 11, Dempsey, Mary Anne, Richard, Margaret Brophey, 100
1885, 1, Dempsey, Thomas, Richard, Margaret Brophey, 110.
1886, 3, Dempsey, John, Richard, Margaret Brophey, 119.
1887, 10, Dempsey, Serah, Richard, Margaret Brophey, 131.
1888, 112, Dempsey, Chistie, Richard, Margaret Brophey. 139.
1890, 9, Dempsey, Julia Agnes, Richard, Margaret Brophey, 153.
1892, 5, Dempsey, Joseph, Richard, Margaret Brophey, 2.
1894, 3, Dempsey, Patrick, Richard, Margaret Brophey, 16.
1895, 6, Dempsey, Richard, Richard, Margaret Brophey, 26.
1896, 10, Dempsey, John Joseph, Richard, Margaret Brophey, 38.
Once again thanks so much for all the help you have given.
regards
Jim
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Jim....
This is the entry from the Barracks...
Dempsey Patk 18 Male - Roman Catholic Queens Co Ag Labourer Read and write - Single
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Evening Jim....
I am sure if you ask someone on here they will help you out with the info you need..I do not use Ancestry or would do it for you...
Does it give you a number of the House in Borris Road where Edward was born (Daft question really when we didnt have them ..but there is a Lizzie Brophy (69yrs) living at house No.9 on the 1911 census...thought at first she may have been Margarets Mother..but Margarets age on the 1911 Census tends to dispel that theory....
I have not seen your original thread with the Baptismal dates etc.
What made you think Edwards father was also in the Army...?
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Thanks Eringobragh
I didn't have that info although I knew that he was in the Leinster Regt.
I have not been able to get into the records myself as Ancestry will not accept my 'pay & go' card even though there are sufficient funds on it!
It is very frustrating and I am trying to find a way around it.
Meantime many thanks to all of you who have helped me so far.
regards
Jim
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Jim...Re Patrick Dempsey (Pension Record)
Patrick was stationed at Marybro.Barracks..(Leinster Reg H.Q.) on 1911 Census.
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Hi Lou
many thanks for the further info.
I did not know of a Jeremiah Dempsey as one of granddads siblings but perhaps he is the 13th child.
My uncle was called Jeremiah so it seems quite possible.
The marriage date for Richard tallies with the information which I have so it seems that I am now on the right track.
Many thanks once again for all the information you have all turned up for me. I don't know where I would be if it wasn't for people such as yourself who are prepared to help us.
regards
Jim
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Also this possible marriage for Richard and Margaret, as on the census they say married for 29 years which would fit in with this.
Richard Dempsey
Mountmellick
Marriages
Jan-Mar 1882
101254
3
455
4179387
00165
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On Edwards army record it lists a Pte Jeremiah and gives his army number.
I had a look on Ancestry and found this
Name: Jeremiah Dempsey
Birth Place: Mountmellick, Queen's Co.
Residence: Mountmellick
Death Date: 19 May 1915
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Naas
Rank: Private
Regiment: Royal Dublin Fusiliers
Battalion: 2nd Battalion
Number: 9343
Type of Casualty: Died of wounds
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
I also found this on the 1911 census
DEMPSEY, Jeremiah Single ? 24 1887 Mountwellick Queens CO VIEW
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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
34997 Reference:
RG14PN34997 RD641 SD22 ED5 SN9999
Registration District:
Sub District:
Enumeration District:
5 Parish:
Address:
Ahmednagar Deccan India County:
Overseas military
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Many thanks Mary - I shall now have something to follow up at last.
My brother & I ( both in our 70's) have been trying for some years to trace our maternal side without very much success but now I have great hopes of an improvement.
Thank you all once again.
Jim
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Hi,
many thanks for the information on patrick dempseys army service. I had no record of ths.
I now have a few leads to follow up so I say thank you to all who have responded to my plea for help. May the sun always shine on you all.
regards
Jim
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I think Patrick 1908/9 died 1938 according to a tree on Ancestry.
Maryb
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Hi Lou,
Yes this is my Grandfathers family. It looks as though he followed his fathers footsteps. I knew that Edward was in the army before 1904 but not his father.
Many thanks
Jim
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Hi Mary,
I had some of this. Catherine 1907 waas my mother. Patrick died young (so far as I know) I didn't know that Patrick Ryan was staying with them however.
many thanks
Jim
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