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actually they dont have a daughter Alice as she was born before they married. i would say she is Fanny Lucy's daughter but not a Luckhurst. Have you bought certs or are you going on census info only .
Also Fanny married in 1886 and Dorothy is a Freed born 1895 so cant be Fanny's daughter also if you re look at the 1911 census posted for Fanny & James the info is only 1 child born to the marriage which died so it cant be Dorothy as she is still around !
I think you need to get some certs to put the family in order

this may be the answer to my link between the Maidstone Freed and the Ashford Freed. So far I have not been able to connect the 2 but this looks as if it crosses over from one to the other. Looks like she is one of the maidstone lot but grand daughter to the Ashford lot... yikes.

Think I need the birth certificate of Fanny Lucy to make certain who her parents are.

perhaps luckhurst adopted her. I also have Fanny marrying Luckhurst and they have a daughter ALice, which is what you have also found.

You need Dorothys birth certificate to confirm who the mother was

On the 1901 it says adopted and as you say on the 1911 it gives her as niece

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1911 census
LUCKHURST, James Head Married
24 years M 54 1857 Carter Kent Smarden VIEW
LUCKHURST, Fanny Wife Married F 47 1864 Kent Challock VIEW
FREED, Dorothy Niece Single F 16 1895 Kent Ashford

This Dorothy I have as the daughter of unmarried Fanny Freed who later married James Luckhurst but it says niece here.

yes thank you all so much for all the info. I will have to go through it piece by piece and compare it to the bits I have on my tree. REally appreciate all the trouble you have gone to.

So any good Little Lost we spent some time on this!!

just for good measure
Name: Dorothy Lilian Freed
Year of Registration: 1895
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: West Ashford
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 818
bet shes one of the other siblings daughter !!

1911 census
LUCKHURST, James Head Married
24 years M 54 1857 Carter Kent Smarden VIEW
LUCKHURST, Fanny Wife Married F 47 1864 Kent Challock VIEW
FREED, Dorothy Niece Single F 16 1895 Kent Ashford VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
4260 Reference:
RG14PN4260 RG78PN169 RD55 SD2 ED6 SN224

Registration District:
West Ashford Sub District:
Ashford Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Ashford

Address:
39 Hempsted Street Ashford Kent County:
Kent

married 24 years one child born and died

Brilliant, well done you two. I wouldnt have slept without a happy ending!

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Yep!!! . we crossed posts,so looks like Fanny Lucy was her mum

Mary Ann
Name: Mary Ann Freed
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: West Ashford
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 1312
Charles Frederick Tyler or George Bull


so both girls married after 1885 so either could be the mum

Well done Shirley.... do you think this is Alice J (Freed) in the 1901 census?

Name: Alice J Luckhurst
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James E
Mother's Name: Fanny L
Gender: Female
Where born: Leeds, Kent, England

Civil parish: Ashford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary the Virgin
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: West Ashford
Sub-registration district: Ashford
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
James E Luckhurst 44 b Smarden Kent occ Coal Merchants Assistant
Fanny L Luckhurst 37 b Challock Kent
Alice J Luckhurst 15 Daughter
Dorthy L Freed 6 Adopted Child b Ashford Kent

Fanny Lucy married in 1886
Name: Fanny Lucy Freed
Year of Registration: 1886
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Hollingbourne
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 1127
James Edward Luckhurst

No she isnt william,s daughter as mum remarried in 1880 to George Pile and had just the one son Edward Pile c1881 ,. this agrees with the info they gave on the 1911 census . ie 1 child born still living
They have her a grandaughter on the 1891 census so bet she is the child of one of the elder Freed children Mary Ann maybe or Fanny Lucy . her birth cert is a necessary here for the info

Hang on, am I being stupid here (dont answer that!) If Alice was born in 1885 as it looks thats the case, why is she born 'Freed' when William died in 1875?

OK, so Alice was one of William and Fannys children?

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SOO Edward PIle born c1881 is the son of George and Fanny so Alice Jane FREED born 1885 cant be their daughter,is probably one of Fanny's elder childrens child

poss death
Name: William Freed
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 33
District: West Ashford
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 394

marriage ties with the record on the 1911 census
PILE, George Head Married M 60 1851 Labour Railway Kent Pluckley VIEW
PILE, Fanny Wife Married30 years F 71 1840 Westwell Kent VIEW
FREED, Ethel May Granddaughter Single F 21 1890 Leeds Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
4268 Reference:
RG14PN4268 RG78PN169 RD55 SD2 ED14 SN93

Registration District:
West Ashford Sub District:
Ashford Enumeration District:
14 Parish:
Bethersden

Address:
Pearson Cottages St Bethersden Ashford Kent County:
Kent

according to the actual census page they had 1 child still living That must be Edward Pile b c1881

Fanny's first marriage?

Marriages Dec 1861
Freed William Blean 2a 1059
Heathfield Fanny Blean 2a 1059

The district Blean is in the county of Kent;