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Trying to find any info of a John Hope Breeze.The family history is that the name Hope that is still carried on as a middle name is so rumor has it some connection to the Hope diamond and the lonsdale belt or Lonsdale Family. Servant perhaps.John Hope Breeze was born in 1874 and in 1911 he was living in Batley Yorkshire.He was married to a Emma Thorpe and they had a son Leslie Hope Breeze.Thanks

Have you tried a search on this site to see if anyone else is looking for the family
Liz

Hello Liz.Sorry new to all this and dont know whats what.

Just go to the search at the top and enter the name you are looking for. A larger box should then appear, and you can add dates and places.
Liz

There are military records for John Hope Breeze. It says he's married to Emma Thorpe with 4 children:
Leslie 1901
Arthur 1909
Eric 1912
Charles William 1915

It says Emma died 3 May 1916.
Also son Charles William died 24 Jan, 1916, aged 6 months.

This looks like them:
1901 census
1 Warwick Cottages, Batley, Yorkshire
John Breeze, head, 27, railway goods porter, born Salop, Shrewsbury
Emma, wife, 21, confectioner's shop assistant, born Yorks, Birdwell
Charles Thorpe, brother-in-law, 7, born Yorks, Hoyland Common
Emelia Haigh, cousin, 18, rag sorter, born Yorks, Sheffield

There are these Breeze births with mother's maiden name Thorpe. (Mother's maiden name for births was only given after 1910). It looks as if Charles W. and John H. were twins and John H probably died.

Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
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BREEZE Eric Thorpe Dewsbury 9b 971


Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Sep 1915 (>99%)
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Breeze Charles W Thorpe Dewsbury 9b 916
Breeze John H Thorpe Dewsbury 9b 916


Yes he did:

Deaths Sep 1915 (>99%)
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Breeze John H 0 Dewsbury 9b 670

1881 census
4 Court 1, Barker St., Shrewsbury, Shropshire
Reuben Breese, head, 44, hay (something?), born Shrewsbury
Mary, wife, 34, born Montgomeryshire, Criggion
Emma, dau, 13
Reuben, son, 11
Eliza, dau, 7
***John, son, 7
Mary, dau, 6
Martha, dau, 4
Children all born Shrewsbury.

Reuben and Mary's marriage?

Marriages Sep 1866 (>99%)
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BREEZE Reuben Shrewsbury 6a 1119
WESTON Mary Shrewsbury 6a 1119

He's on 2 trees on Ancestry but both have different parents.

Have to say, I've yet to see a tree on Ancestry that isn't full of errors.

Rose

There are 2 Johns born Shrewsbury, so it's going to be hard to find him on a census.

Births Jun 1873
BREEZE John Atcham 6a 704

Births Sep 1873
Breeze John Hope Atcham 6a 680

Rose

Think this is John in 1891

England Census
Name: John Fretwell
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Mirfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub-registration district: Mirfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Fretwell 35
Emily Fretwell 40
John Fretwell 17
Harry Fretwell 14
Elizabeth Fretwell 11
William Fretwell 11
Jesse Fretwell 7

His mother married after he was born so Hope as his middle name, might be his father's surname.

Marriages Dec 1876
BREEZE Emily Dewsbury 9b 1059
DRANSFIELD William Fretwell Dewsbury 9b 1059

Rose

This confirms it:

1881 Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William FRETWELL Head M Male 24 Berry Brow, York, England Assistant Gardener Dom
Emily FRETWELL Wife M Female 28 Shrewsbury Frankwell, Worcester, England
John HOPE Illig Son Male 7 Shrewsbury Frankwell Scholar
Harry FRETWELL Son Male 4 Mirfield, York, England
William FRETWELL Son Male 1 Mirfield, York, England
Elizabeth FRETWELL Daur Female 1 Mirfield, York, England
Jane SMITH Boarder U Female 30 Drayton, Buckingham, England Unemployed General Servant
Alice SMITH Boarder U Female 3 Drayton, Buckingham, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling Gaunt
Census Place Mirfield, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342098
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4557 / 104
Page Number 12

Rose

1901:

1901 England Census
about Richard Breeze
Name: Richard Breeze
Age: 74
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Father-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Shewsbury, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Mirfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub-registration district: Mirfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 80
Household Members: Name Age
William Fretwell 43
Emily Fretwell 48
Harry Fretwell 23
Willie Fretwell 21
Jesse Fretwell 16
Richard Breeze 74

Rose

Thank you very much for all the info it is now falling into place.The next link in the chain is to find where Emily was employed before the birth of John HOPe

Can anyone tell me any information about Richard Breeze born abt. 1826 Shrewsbury Shropshire and his wife Eliza Breeze late Tye formally Blair.Their daughter Emily was registered fourth of March 1850 Mandol St. Chad Shrewsbury.Richard Breeze s occupation was given as Inn Keeper.I know Richard went on to be a Butler and died living with his daughter Emily in 1904 at Mirfield Yorkshire.I am trying to find out who were the family of Eliza and what happened to her.Emily gave birth to a son John Hope Breeze in Jully 1873 the informant was a Ann Wild The Glen Frankwell Shrewsbury.What was The Glen was it a house or area.Thank You.

1851 census
Mardol?, St. Chads, Shrewsbury
Rich'd Breeze, head, 25, publican, born Shrewsbury
Eliza, wife, 31, born "
Emma, dau, 1, born "
Eliza William, servant, 25, born Bicton, Salop

Marriage to Richard:

Marriages Mar 1849 (>99%)
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Breeze Richard Shrewsbury 18 229 9
Tye Eliza Shrewsbury 18 229

Previous marriage:

Marriages Sep 1842 (>99%)
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BLAIR Eliza Shrewsbury 18 203
TYE John Shrewsbury 18 203

Thank you Margaret

Help in finding Richard Breeze b.1826 1851 he is inKingswinfoed Staffordshire Labourer.1861 Coed Y Realth Shrpshire Servant. 1871 ? 1881 Shrewsbury St Chad aged 55 Butler Widower.Married to Jane children Savina b.1851 Emily b.1853 Thomas b. 1857 and William b. 1861 as far as i know they were born in Shrewsbury.Thank you