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Hi,
Im looking for info on : Charles Flynn ( or Flynne ) born 1877 location ?? ( could be Ireland )

I believe he had siblings ( William/ Billy , Robert , Annie, Mary) with Charles being the eldest.

I know ( ish ) he married Jane Whiteford in 1912 and had several children ( some are recorded as Flynn others as Flynne )

I believe there is a link somewhere to Askam in Furness as a reletive can remember visiting Charles's sisters ( with Charles )across there in 1945 ..

Other than that ... i cant seem to find anything before him getting hitched in 1912 ....

If you come across anything , i would be glad of the info

Thanks in Advance

Jon

Right sort of location??

1891 England Census
about Charles Flinn
Name: Charles Flinn
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles
Gender: Male
Where born: Maryport, Cumberland, England

Civil parish: Workington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Cumberland

Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: Workington
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Flinn 45
Ann M Flinn 31
Charles Flinn 13
Mary J Flinn 5
Ann M Flinn 4
Robert J Flinn 2
Sarah Flinn 7/12
Mary Jane Flinn 28
Martha A Flinn 8
John W Flinn 6
George Flinn 3
Thomas Flinn 5/12

Jon...I assume you have his Marriage Cert...Reg Sept.1912 Hexam...
That would show his fathers name and Charles address at time of his Marriage..
Have you looked at the 1911 Census to see if he was in the area...?

Jon. Jane is listed as 18years on the 1911 Census (Hexam)

3 Charles Flynn's Ncle.

HOUSEHOLD FLYNN CHARLES M 1877 34 Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD FLYNN CHARLES M 1850 61 Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD FLYNN CHARLES M 1884 27 Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland

This is the only one I can see in Northumberland in 1911 with the birth year you give:

FLYNN, Mary Head Widow F 64 1847 In Ireland Co Hanuhan Parish of Aneshire Resident VIEW
FLYNN, Charles Son Single M 34 1877 Coal Miner Hewer Durham Engalnd VIEW
HOPE, Estlla Servant Single F 16 1895 Winlaton Dwickon Eng VIEW

Registration District:
Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District:
Benwell Enumeration District:
13 Parish:
Benwell

Address:
54 Joan Street Benwell Newcastle- Upon- Tyne County:
Northumberland

You really do need that marriage cert.

E.1916 is right - this is the onlt Jane Whiteford:

WHITEFORD, Fenwick Head Married M 52 1859 Coal Miner Hewer Northumberland Mickley VIEW
WHITEFORD, Hannah Wife Married
30 years F 50 1861 Northumberland West Wylam VIEW
WHITEFORD, John Son Married
5 years M 26 1885 Coal Miner Hewer Northumberland West Wylam VIEW
WHITEFORD, Thomas Son Single M 19 1892 Coal Miner Putter Northumberland West Wylam VIEW
WHITEFORD, Jane Daughter Single F 18 1893 Northumberland West Wylam VIEW
WHITEFORD, Abraham Son M 13 1898 Durham Waldridge VIEW
WHITEFORD, Agnes Daughter In Law Married F 25 1886 Durham Broonpark VIEW
WHITEFORD, Martha Jane Granddaughter F 5 1906 Durham White Le Head VIEW
WHITEFORD, Elizabeth Granddaughter F 3 1908 Durham Spen VIEW
WHITEFORD, Hannah Granddaughter F 0 (4 MONTHS) 1911 Durham Hamsterley VIEW
HALL, Charles Boarder Single M 28 1883 Labourer Colliery Lancashire Ulverston VIEW

Registration District:
Hexham Sub District:
Bywell Enumeration District:
15 Parish:
Prudhoe Castle

Address:
14 Hagg Cottages Wylam County:
Northumberland

How have you come by 1877 as a birth year for Charles?

The only other possible I can see in Northumberland:

GOODFELLOW, George Head Married M 45 1866 Police Pensioner Cumberland VIEW
GOODFELLOW, Mary Wife Married
14 years F 38 1873 House Wife Gateshead Durham VIEW
GOODFELLOW, Margaret Daughter F 13 1898 Scholar Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland VIEW
FLYNN, Charles Boarder Single M 27 1884 Clothier Travelling Draper Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
30624 Reference:
RG14PN30624 RG78PN1754 RD558 SD4 ED9 SN68

Registration District:
Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District:
St Nicholas Enumeration District:
9 Parish:
Westgate

Address:
16 Mansfield Street Newcastle upon Tyne County:
Northumberland

Jon.... Flynn's found all over the Durham/Sunderland areas also the Whiteford's came from the same areas
This will be yours some where along the line..dont think there were too many with the name...(Janes father's name)

The " Co.Hanuhan" for Mary Flynn (1911 Census) I would suggest should be Co Monaghan.

Burials Gateshead
Fenwick Whiteford birth abt 1848 death 1848
Blaydon Staithes

BrummieJean ... yep , that is our Whiteford lot !
we got 1877 from a relative and we think he was 78 when he died in 1954 .... am awaiting Death Cert as a relation is sure they have a copy !

Also looks like the Cumbria link was correct .... im not surprised i couldn't find him , they had altered the surname to flinn ! ( my family names seem the bane of my life !! ) he is listed as Flinn / Flynn / Flynne

E1916 ... Fenwick seems to have been a popular name in our Family ( it seems to have died out in the 20 / 30's ) as i've found abiut 7 of them !

Thank you all for this ... its a massive help and sets me off looking in the right directions :o)

Jon, I would seriously consider getting his marriage cert as without it you are really at risk of going astray. Getting ages etc. from relatives is very dodgy, as I know to my cost!!
Incidentally, are you certain of his marriage?
Also, the spelling of Flinn was done by the enumerator, and not incorrect as such, just spelt as he heard it!
jan

Jon...If you are assuming that the Maryport (1891) family is yours then note that this is Charles snr's 2nd Marriage...(look at Ann's age and gap between children following Charles (b 1877)...
On that assumption I have cross ref this and found the following...

Household Record 1881 British Census

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Helen FLYNN Head M Female 54 Ireland
Chas. FLYNN Son W Male 30 Harrington, Cumberland, England Sailor
Helen FLYNN Gd Daur Female 6 Workington, Cumberland, England Scholar
*Chas. FLYNN* Gd Son Male 3 Maryport, Cumberland, England
Ann R. FLYNN Gd Daur Female 4 Workington, Cumberland, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 4 Old Iron Wks
Census Place Seaton, Cumberland, England
Family History Library Film 1342248
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5175 / 66
Page Number 55

jon....? Death Charles (1881 Census) wife...

Deaths Sep 1880 (>99%)
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Flinn Margaret 26 Cockermouth 10b 347

jon....Charles' 2nd Marriage.

Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%)
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FEATHERSTONHAUGH Ann M Cockermouth 10b 888
FLINN Charles Cockermouth 10b 888

jon...The Ann Featherstonehaugh marrying Charles ...was b Denton Cumberland and the daughter of a Methodist Minister...This does not fit with the 1911 Census of Mary "Flynn" W.b Co Monaghan living with son Charles b 1877(Coal miner) living in Benwell....
My money is on that connection at the moment.

jon...Charles (Cockermouth ) 1st marriage

Registered June 1873.
Flinn Charles Cockermouth 10b 1006
Rice Margaret Cockermouth 10b 1006

have just spent £10 of my hard earned cash on their Marriage Cert ... lets see what that tells me ... and then we might have a better idea ... how long do these things normally take ?

jon...Depends on where you ordered it from...anything up to 6 weeks.
Do you have the names of any of the children of Chas.and Jane...
What Rel.where they..?

If you are in the UK certs shouldn't take more than a week to arrive - they were very slow for a while just before the price went up but hopefully back to normal now! let us know how you get on.
Jan

I ordered it from the GRO site ... but it did give a despatch date of the middle of next week .... its silly , but im a little excited.

Charles & Jane's kids .. i have them all ( Margaret 1912, Hannah 1914, Mary 1916, Charles 1920,Fenwick 1921,James 1923,Anne 1926,Joyce 1929,Shiela 1930(ish) )

It was James that can remember visiting Relations in Askam in Furness with his father and their names , and he can recall his grandparents visiting , but he only saw them the once and was very young at the time and neither he nor Joyce ( the 2 remaining children ) know their names or have any documents ( what paperwork / photo's they that had were destroyed by Charles (Jnr ) after his parents had passed away.

The Marraige Cert has arrived ...and it shows his father as Charles also ... so now i know which direction to start looking ....


Thanks for all of your help :)