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Elizabeth Trivett(Peters)

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Joanne

Joanne Report 5 Jun 2010 00:25

Hi, I am trying to find the family of an Elizabeth Trivett who married an Albert Simmons in sept 1926. I do have a copy of her marriage cert. and on it it says that she was a widow age 31 when they married and her fathers name was Thomas Samuel Peters. So I am guessing that her maiden name was Peters, though I have tried searching for a birth I have come up with nothing I have also looked on 1901 census and come up with nothing. The areas that she may have been born/living are Lewisham, Woolwich and steyning.

Please can anyone help?
Any info would be much appreciated.

Joanne

patchem

patchem Report 5 Jun 2010 00:39

Do you know where and when she died, or approximate place and date?
And was her father dead or alive when she married, and occupation?
Thanks

Joanne

Joanne Report 5 Jun 2010 00:47

Hi Patricia, No I'm sorry I dont know when she died. It doesnt say on marriage cert. father deceased it says he was a general labourer. Elizabeth and Albert lived in Eltham when they got married.

patchem

patchem Report 5 Jun 2010 00:49

A very long shot: Bessie not Elizabeth and age out, but Thomas S and Woolwich:
1901 England Census
Thomas S Peters Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Ross, Hertfordshire, England Civil parish: Plumstead Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 78 Purrett Road? Occupation: overlooker in cartridge factory? Registration district: Woolwich Sub-registration district: Plumstead East ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Household schedule number: 156
Thomas S Peters 34
Sarah Peters 34 Woolwich
George Peters 14 Woolwich
Florine Peters 9 Ross
Thomas Peters 6 Woolwich
Bessie Peters 3 Plumstead
Gordon Peters 2 Plumstead
Frank Peters 2 months Plumstead
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 575; Folio: 179; Page: 26.

Joanne

Joanne Report 5 Jun 2010 01:07

That is possible but not sure about it. Thank you though. I think what I need to find is a birth for her and work my way around that, perhapes get hold of her Birth Cert.

Mike *

Mike * Report 5 Jun 2010 01:15

I'm thinking this is Thomas's marriage but there's a spouse missing from the index.

As daughter Elizabeth was born about the same time it may be that she was born in her mother's name.

The cert would give you the mother's maiden name which could be the name that Elizabeth was registered under.
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Marriages Jun 1895

.************.Peters Thomas Samuel Woolwich 1d 1837
Shreeve Samuel Woolwich 1d 1837
Turpin Edith Martha Woolwich 1d 1837

Joanne

Joanne Report 5 Jun 2010 01:30

Hi Michael, I am a bit confused you say there is a spouse missing from the index, so who is Edith martha turpin???? The marriage entry you have given is a little confusing.

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 5 Jun 2010 01:37

this the same family
1911


PETERS, Thomas Head Married M 45 1866 Explosive Royal Arsenal Labourer Herfordshire Ross VIEW
PETERS, Sarah Wife Married 25 years 11 children 10 living 44 1867 Woolwich London VIEW
PETERS, Bessie Daughter F 14 1897 School Plumstead London VIEW
PETERS, Gordon Son M 12 1899 School Plumstead London VIEW
PETERS, Edward Son M 10 1901 School Plumstead London VIEW
PETERS, Gladys Daughter F 8 1903 School Plumstead London VIEW
PETERS, Henry Son M 5 1906 School Plumstead London VIEW
PETERS, William Son Married M 3 1908 School Plumstead London VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2915 Reference:
RG14PN2915 RG78PN100 RD30 SD4 ED10 SN167

Registration District:
Woolwich Sub District:
Plumstead East Enumeration District:
10 Parish:
Plumstead

Address:
6 White Hart Lane Plumstead S E County:
London

zoe

zoe Report 5 Jun 2010 02:02

Marriages Jun 1895
Peters Thomas Samuel Woolwich 1d 1837
Hendon Sarah Woolwich 1d 1837 <<<<<<<<<<


WEBSITE INFORMED RE ERROR


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patchem

patchem Report 5 Jun 2010 05:48

If the marriage in 1895 is the correct marriage, then the 1901 and 1911 census entries are wrong, as they were married in 1886 - I did say it was a long shot.

patchem

patchem Report 5 Jun 2010 06:07

These are possible deaths(amongst many):
Elizabeth Simmons
Birth Date: 17 Mar 1895 Death Registration Month/Year: Jan 1987
Age at death (estimated): 91 Registration district: Ealing
Inferred County: London Volume: 12 Page: 237

Elizabeth Simmons
Birth Date: 4 Aug 1892 Death Registration Month/Year: 1971
Registration district: St Pancras Inferred County: London
Volume: 5d Page: 2343

Do you know if she had any children? And do you know if she ever used a middle name?
Thanks

SnowyJen

SnowyJen Report 5 Jun 2010 07:39

Name: Thomas Samuel Peters
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 30 May 1875
Baptism/Christening Place: Horsham, Sussex, England
Father's Name: Peter Peters
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Births Jun 1875
PETERS Thomas Samuel
Horsham 2b 286

SnowyJen

SnowyJen Report 5 Jun 2010 07:41

possible birth and death

Births Mar 1896
Peters Elizabeth
Elham 2a 1002

Deaths Dec 1938
SIMMONS Elizabeth age 42
Hailsham 2b 144

SnowyJen

SnowyJen Report 5 Jun 2010 07:48

This birth certificate should tell you if the mothers former name was Peters
Births Jun 1929
Simmons Florence G
mothers maiden name: Trivett
GRO: Lewisham 1d 1329

Joanne

Joanne Report 5 Jun 2010 10:21

Hi Patricia, Elizabeth Had children that I know of from the 2nd marriage to Albert James John Simmons. one is my mother in law Joan Gladys Simmons 1930(this is a mystery at the mo as cant find her birth) a Florence G Simmons 1929
and twins peter J Simmons and Patricia E Simmons 1928. There maye more.
What I would like to find is Elizabeths 1st marriage to a Trivett. As for a middle name I dont know.

Joanne

Joanne Report 5 Jun 2010 10:24

Hi snowyjen, If that is the case thats brilliant as I have ordered one of those for another reason.

SnowyJen

SnowyJen Report 5 Jun 2010 13:25

This could be the birth for Joan Gladys!

Births Sep 1930
Simmons Gladys J
mothers maiden name:Peters
Woolwich 1d 1588

SnowyJen

SnowyJen Report 5 Jun 2010 13:25

and patricia, but no sign of peter!

Births Mar 1928
Simmons Patricia E
mothers maiden name:Peters
Lewisham 1d 1502

SnowyJen

SnowyJen Report 5 Jun 2010 13:26

Other possible siblings

Births Mar 1927
Simmons Betty F
mothers maiden name:Peters
Lewisham 1d 1381

Births Jun 1932
Simmons Joyce M
mothers maiden name:Peters
Woolwich 1d 1552

Births Mar 1936
Simmons Jeanette
mothers maiden name: Peters
Woolwich 1d 1321

Mike *

Mike * Report 5 Jun 2010 13:34

Joanne
On Freebmd
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Once you find what you think is the right marriage, you can click on the blue reference number and it will bring up all the people on that page .. If you're lucky there are only two, but sometime up to 8.
You then have to match the couples with whatever you know.
In the instance of finding Thomas's marriage there were only 3 names showing ( there should be an even number) so the other two may have been one couple marrying each other, which leaves Thomas's spouse unrecorded on the index.
If you ordered that cert number his bride would be on it.