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Amanda
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8 Jun 2010 11:09 |
could anyone plz check me the 1911 cencus plz l am after 1) John Lees birth 1860 his wife is named sarah from tunstall stoke on trent
2) Frederick Arrowsmith birth 1860 is wife is named martha from longton stoke on trent
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alviegal
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8 Jun 2010 11:16 |
1901 for reference for Frederick and family.
1901 census transcription details for: 2, Union Street, Stoke Upon Trent National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 2608 Folio: 128 Page: 46 Reg. District: Stoke upon Trent Sub District: Stoke upon Trent Parish: Stoke upon Trent Enum. District: 5 Ecclesiastical District: Stoke upon Trent St Peter City/Municipal Borough: Address: 2, Union Street, Stoke Upon Trent County: Staffordshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born ARROWSMITH, Frederick Head Married M 40 1861 Potters Labourer Stoke Staffordshire ARROWSMITH, Martha Wife Married F 40 1861 Stoke Staffordshire ARROWSMITH, William Son M 16 1885 Saggar House Boy Stoke Staffordshire ARROWSMITH, Frederick Son M 13 1888 Nat Telephone Boy Stoke Staffordshire ARROWSMITH, Edith Daughter F 11 1890 Stoke Staffordshire ARROWSMITH, Martha Daughter F 9 1892 Stoke Staffordshire ARROWSMITH, Annie Daughter F 7 1894 Stoke Staffordshire ARROWSMITH, John Son M 4 1897 Stoke Staffordshire ARROWSMITH, Marinda Daughter F 0 (11 MOS) 1901 Stoke Staffordshire LEIGH, Hannah Boarder Widow F 78 1823 Longton Staffordshire
Ah here they are. Martha is a widow.
1911 census transcription details for: 33 Birks St Stoke - on - Trent National Archive Reference: RG14PN16565 RG78PN1023 RD361 SD2 ED17 SN243 Reg. District: Stoke upon Trent Sub District: Stoke upon Trent Parish: Stoke upon Trent Enum. District: 17 Address: 33 Birks St Stoke - on - Trent County: Staffordshire Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born ARROWSMITH, Martha Ellen Head Widow F 50 1861 Staffordshire Stoke ARROWSMITH, William Thomas Son Single M 26 1885 Potters Placer Chemist at Mistone? Ltd Staffordshire Stoke ARROWSMITH, Noel Son M 6 1905 School Staffordshire Stoke ARROWSMITH, Martha Ellen Daughter Single F 19 1892 Potters Warehouse at Empire Porcelain Staffordshire Stoke ARROWSMITH, Martha Ellen Daughter Single F 19 1892 Potters Warehouse at Bradary Fenton Pottery Staffordshire Stoke
This last Martha Ellen should read Annie Arrowsmith aged 17, Potters warehouse at Bradary Fenton Pottery, born in Stoke
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8 Jun 2010 11:17 |
1911 - looks like Frederick has died -
ARROWSMITH, Martha Ellen Head Widow F 50 1861 Staffordshire Stoke VIEW ARROWSMITH, William Thomas Son Single M 26 1885 Potters Placer Chemist Staffordshire Stoke VIEW ARROWSMITH, Noel Son M 6 1905 School Staffordshire Stoke VIEW ARROWSMITH, Martha Ellen Daughter Single F 19 1892 Potters Warehouse Staffordshire Stoke VIEW ARROWSMITH, Martha Ellen Daughter Single F 19 1892 Potters Warehouse Staffordshire Stoke VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 16565 Reference: RG14PN16565 RG78PN1023 RD361 SD2 ED17 SN243 Registration District: Stoke upon Trent Sub District: Stoke upon Trent Enumeration District: 17 Parish: Stoke upon Trent Address: 33 Birks St Stoke - on - Trent County: Staffordshire
NOTE THIS IS MIS-TRANSCRIBED.
There are not two Martha Ellens, only one !
There is also an Annie Arrowsmith aged 17 born Potters Warehouse.
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8 Jun 2010 11:21 |
Deaths Mar 1911 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ARROWSMITH Frederick 51 Stoke T. 6b 150
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Amanda
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8 Jun 2010 11:23 |
thanxs for that is there any records of if the kids married at all
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Julie
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8 Jun 2010 11:25 |
You can look for that yourself on this site, which is Free
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
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Amanda
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8 Jun 2010 11:43 |
hiya everybody l have a change and l need a lot of help with locating my lees and leight family, l have looked every where and dont get any where the lees family keep marriage there cousion l am trying to locate david lees/leese the info l have on him birth 21-april-1832, is christing is 5-aug-1832 Primitive Methodist, Tunstall By Stoke Upon Trent, Stafford, England, l dont know if he as bro and sisiter and l know is mom is mary nixon but l dont have her birth year or where she was born his dad is named john lees again l dont have birth year or a place of is birth
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alviegal
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8 Jun 2010 11:52 |
Right, I've found John now I think.
1901 census transcription details for: 81, Heaton Terrace, Wolstanton National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 2585 Folio: 47 Page: 29 Reg. District: Wolstanton Sub District: Wolstanton Parish: Wolstanton Enum. District: 2 Ecclesiastical District: St Margarets City/Municipal Borough: Address: 81, Heaton Terrace, Wolstanton County: Staffordshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born LEESE, John H Head Married M 41 1860 Foreman Brass Moulder Tunstall Staffordshire LEESE, Sarah Wife Married F 37 1864 Newcastle Staffordshire LEESE, Elsie Daughter Single F 11 1890 Wolstanton Staffordshire LEESE, Hilda Daughter Single F 7 1894 Wolstanton Staffordshire BAXTER, Stephanie Servant Single F 22 1879 Servant Domestic Goldenhill
1911 census transcription details for: 99 Heaton Terrace Porthill Staffordshire National Archive Reference: RG14PN16440 RG78PN1019 RD360 SD1 ED2 SN325 Reg. District: Wolstanton Sub District: Wolstanton Parish: Wolstanton Enum. District: 2 Address: 99 Heaton Terrace Porthill Staffordshire County: Staffordshire Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born LEESE, John Henry Head Married M 51 1860 Foreman Bass Moulder Tunstall Staffs LEESE, Stephannie Lorenza Wife Married 6 years F 32 1879 Goldenhill Staffs LEESE, Elsie Daughter Single F 21 1890 Dress Maker Wolstanton Staffs LEESE, Hilda Daughter Single F 17 1894 Millener Wolstanton Staffs LEESE, John Henry Son M 5 1906 Wolstanton Staffs Staffordshire
Marriages Sep 1904 (>99%) Banford John William Wolstanton 6b 189 Scan available - click to view >>Baxter Stephanie Lorenza Wolstanton 6b 189 Scan available - click to view >>Leese John Henry Wolstanton 6b 189 Scan available - click to view Shaw Elizabeth Wolstanton 6b 189
and possible death for Sarah.
Deaths Jun 1901 (>99%)
Leese Sarah 37 Wolstanton 6b 54
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Amanda
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8 Jun 2010 11:56 |
does that mean john lees was married twise then to stephanie
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alviegal
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8 Jun 2010 11:58 |
So David is John's (1860) father? I see David Lees 21, married Sarah Lees 19, 7 Feb 1854 at Tunstall. His father was John Lees and her father was Enoch Lees. (From familysearch)
1861 census transcription details for: King Street, Tunstall National Archive Reference: RG number: RG09 Piece: 1925 Folio: 144 Page: 37 Reg. District: Wolstanton Sub District: 2 Tunstall Parish: Tunstall Enum. District: 16 Ecclesiastical District: Christchurch Tunstall City/Municipal Borough: Address: King Street, Tunstall County: Staffordshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born LEESE, David Head Married M 29 1832 Crate Maker Tunstall Staffordshire LEESE, Sarah Wife Married F 26 1835 Tunstall Staffordshire LEESE, Mary Daughter F 6 1855 Tunstall Staffordshire LEESE, Hannah Daughter F 3 1858 Tunstall Staffordshire LEESE, John Henry Son M 1 1860 Tunstall Staffordshire HOLLAND, Henry Boarder Unmarried M 18 1843 Potter Tunstall Staffordshire
1871 census transcription details for: Chapel Lane, Wolstanton National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 2838 Folio: 7 Page: 5 Reg. District: Wolstanton Sub District: Wolstanton Parish: Wolstanton Enum. District: 1 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Chapel Lane, Wolstanton County: Staffordshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born LEES, Davis Head cratemaker M 38 1833 Staffordshire LEES, Sarah Wife potter F 36 1835 Staffordshire LEES, Mary Daughter potter F 16 1855 Staffordshire LEES, Annie Daughter potter F 13 1858 Staffordshire LEES, John Son cratemaker M 11 1860 Staffordshire LEES, Enoch Son M 2 1869 Staffordshire LEES, Herbert Son M 0 1871 Staffordshire
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about David Leese Name: David Leese Estimated birth year: abt 1832 Year of Registration: 1872 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 40 District: Wolstanton County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 53
1881 census transcription details for: New St, Wolstanton National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 2704 Folio: 39 Page: 72 Reg. District: Wolstanton Sub District: Wolstanton Parish: Wolstanton Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: New St, Wolstanton County: Staffordshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born LEESE, Sarah Head Widow F 46 1835 Widow Tunstall Staffordshire LEESE, John H Son Single M 21 1860 Brass Moulder Tunstall Staffordshire LEESE, Annie Daughter Single F 23 1858 Potter Tunstall Staffordshire LEESE, Enoch Son Single M 13 1868 Scholar Tunstall Staffordshire LEESE, Herbert Son Single M 11 1870 Scholar Wolstanton Staffordshire LEESE, Arthur Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar Wolstanton Staffordshire LEESE, Arthur H Visitor Single M 1 1880 Infant Burslem Staffordshire
1891 census transcription details for: Orchard Terrace, Wolstanton National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 2153 Folio: 28 Page: 49 Reg. District: Wolstanton Sub District: Wolstanton Parish: Wolstanton Enum. District: 1 Ecclesiastical District: St Margarets City/Municipal Borough: Address: Orchard Terrace, Wolstanton County: Staffordshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born LEESE, Sarah Head Widow F 56 1835 Tunstall Staffordshire LEESE, Enoch Son Single M 22 1869 Potters Presser Tunstall Staffordshire LEESE, Herbert Son Single M 20 1871 Potters Turner Wolstanton Staffordshire LEESE, Arthur Son Single M 17 1874 Potters Turner Wolstanton Staffordshire GOODHEAD, Lilly Granddaughter F 13 1878 Wolstanton Staffordshire SLATER, Thomas Son In Law Married M 29 1862 Plate Layer Ashbourne Derbyshire SLATER, Annie Daughter Married F 32 1859 Potters Cup Maker Tunstall Staffordshire SLATER, Arthur T Grandson M 5 1886 Scholar Wolstanton Staffordshire BARLOW, Martha Servant Single F 18 1873 General Servant Domestic Black Bull Staffordshire
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Amanda
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8 Jun 2010 12:03 |
hiya david dad is named john, l have fount the marriage for john lees and mary nixon it took place on 21-july-1829 in saint james church audley staffordshire
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ChristineinPortugal
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8 Jun 2010 14:23 |
Amanda, are you sure you are looking for the correct John Leese because if I remember correctly from your previous threads you are descended from Cicely Leese born 1904 and she isn't with the Leese family posted in 1911.
I don't have a subscription for 1911 but I have found this family on a free search possibly all the same household.
HOUSEHOLD LEESE CICELY F 1905 6 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire OUSEHOLD LEESE ALICE F 1903 8 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire HOUSEHOLD LEESE EMMA F 1895 16 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire HOUSEHOLD LEESE FREDERICK M 1908 3 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire HOUSEHOLD LEESE GEORGE M 1901 10 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire HOUSEHOLD LEESE JOHN M 1873 38 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire HOUSEHOLD LEESE JOHN M 1907 4 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire HOUSEHOLD LEESE LILLIAN F 1898 13 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire HOUSEHOLD LEESE SARAH ELIZABETH F 1873 38 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire 1
If this is correct then John and Sarah are a lot younger than you have for them.
Christine
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Amanda
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8 Jun 2010 14:30 |
l am just going off info l have off my mom tell me yh ciceliya is my grandmother
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ChristineinPortugal
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8 Jun 2010 14:44 |
Do you have Cicely's birth cert?
Christine
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alviegal
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8 Jun 2010 16:08 |
Christine here is the 1911 for Cicely. does that mean we've been looking for the wrong family? These ones are from Longton not Tunstall.
1911 census transcription details for: 11 Bright St Longton Stoke on Trent National Archive Reference: RG14PN16604 RG78PN1025 RD361 SD4 ED17 SN347 Reg. District: Stoke upon Trent Sub District: Longton Parish: Longton Enum. District: 17 Address: 11 Bright St Longton Stoke on Trent County: Staffordshire Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born LEESE, John Head Married M 38 1873 Potter Handler Longton Staffordshire LEESE, Sarah Elizabeth Wife Married 18 years F 38 1873 Throwers Take Off Longton Staffs LEESE, Emma Daughter Single F 16 1895 Potters Lathe Turner Longton Staffs LEESE, Lillian Daughter F 13 1898 Longton Staffs LEESE, George Son M 10 1901 School Longton Staffs LEESE, Alice Daughter F 8 1903 School Longton Staffs LEESE, Cicely Daughter F 6 1905 School Longton Staffs LEESE, John Son M 4 1907 School Longton Staffs LEESE, Frederick Son M 3 1908 Longton Staffs
1901 census transcription details for: 23, Back Lovatt Street, Lonton, Longton National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 2615 Folio: 95 Page: 15 Reg. District: Stoke upon Trent Sub District: Longton Parish: Lonton Enum. District: 11 Ecclesiastical District: Longton St James City/Municipal Borough: Address: 23, Back Lovatt Street, Lonton, Longton County: Staffordshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born LEESE, John Head Married M 28 1873 Potters Handler Longton Staffordshire LEESE, Sarah E Wife Married F 28 1873 Longton Staffordshire LEESE, Emma Daughter F 6 1895 Longton Staffordshire LEESE, Lilian Daughter F 3 1898 Longton Staffordshire LEESE, George Son M 0 (3 MOS) 1901 Longton Staffordshire EVANS, Edward Father-In-Law Widower M 52 1849 Coal Miner (Hewer) Longton Staffordshire EVANS, Henry Brother-In-Law Single M 22 1879 Coal Miner Longton Staffordshire EVANS, George Brother-In-Law Single M 11 1890 Longton Staffordshire
Marriages Jun 1892 (>99%) BRIDGWOOD Eliza Stoke T. 6b 318 Scan available - click to view >>Evans Sarah Elizabeth Stoke T. 6b 318 Scan available - click to view FAIRBANK Joseph Stoke T. 6b 318 Scan available - click to view Fradley James Henry Stoke T. 6b 318 Scan available - click to view >>Leese John Stoke T 6b 318 Scan available - click to view
Cicely's birth certificate is what you really need to get.
Births Sep 1904 (>99%) Leese Cicely Stoke T. 6b 303
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alviegal
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8 Jun 2010 16:16 |
But this one is from Tunstall and is staying with the Nixons.
1891 census transcription details for: 5, Wesley Street, Wolstanton, Tunstall National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 2158 Folio: 88 Page: 7 Reg. District: Wolstanton Sub District: Unstall Parish: Wolstanton Enum. District: 15 Ecclesiastical District: St Marys City/Municipal Borough: Address: 5, Wesley Street, Wolstanton, Tunstall County: Staffordshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born NIXON, Joseph Head Married M 59 1832 Crate Maker Tunstall Staffordshire NIXON, Jane Wife Married F 55 1836 Tunstall Staffordshire NIXON, Henry Son Single M 21 1870 Crate Maker Tunstall Staffordshire NIXON, Annie Daughter Single F 19 1872 Potters Paintress Tunstall Staffordshire LEESE, John Lodger Single M 19 1872 Crate Maker Tunstall Staffordshire
Maybe his family?
1911 census transcription details for: 89 Liverpool Road Burslem Stoke - on - Trent National Archive Reference: RG14PN16484 RG78PN1021 RD360 SD3 ED2 SN246 Reg. District: Wolstanton Sub District: Burslem Parish: Burslem Enum. District: 2 Address: 89 Liverpool Road Burslem Stoke - on - Trent County: Staffordshire Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born LEESE, John Head Married M 38 1873 Labourer Tiliries Staffs Tunstall LEESE, Sarah Ann Wife Married 18 years F 39 1872 Staffs Tunstall LEESE, Ethel Daughter Single F 17 1894 Glost Warehouse Staffs Tunstall LEESE, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 15 1896 Printer's Cutter Staffs Tunstall LEESE, Isabella Daughter Single F 12 1899 School Staffs Tunstall LEESE, John Son Single M 7 1904 Staffs Tunstall
I'm getting totally confused now with all the Johns and Sarahs!!
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Amanda
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8 Jun 2010 16:40 |
thanxs for all the info sorry not on much my little boy is very sick kidney problems l only get on when he is asleep that why l am asken for so much help, lees family is so confussing all the same name and all marring cousions it mad
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Amanda
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8 Jun 2010 16:55 |
l have a mystery for everybody this women l am looken for l cant find l have looked everywhere l have even been to the archives and l still cant find a birth for her her name is Sarah simmons she married Enock Lees in 1831 she was l think born in the tunstall stoke on trent
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ChristineinPortugal
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8 Jun 2010 17:26 |
Thanks for posting the full details for 1911.
Amanda, you need to start with Cicely's birth cert.
I asked if you had this but you haven't answered the question.
It appears you are tracing the wrong John Leese so there's no point anyone looking for any other information at the moment.
Christine
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8 Jun 2010 19:44 |
Message from Amanda.
hi thanxs for the info l do have her birth certificate some where just l am not home much as my son is sick l got that info of john and sarah wedding certificate From Amanda
If you have her birth cert then it will give Sarah's maiden name.
You need to check.
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