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Amanda

Amanda Report 8 Jun 2010 11:09

could anyone plz check me the 1911 cencus plz l am after
1) John Lees birth 1860 his wife is named sarah from tunstall stoke on trent

2) Frederick Arrowsmith birth 1860 is wife is named martha from longton stoke on trent

alviegal

alviegal Report 8 Jun 2010 11:16

1901 for reference for Frederick and family.


1901 census transcription details for: 2, Union Street, Stoke Upon Trent
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 2608 Folio: 128 Page: 46

Reg. District: Stoke upon Trent Sub District: Stoke upon Trent
Parish: Stoke upon Trent Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District: Stoke upon Trent St Peter City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 2, Union Street, Stoke Upon Trent
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
ARROWSMITH, Frederick Head Married M 40 1861 Potters Labourer
Stoke
Staffordshire
ARROWSMITH, Martha Wife Married F 40 1861
Stoke
Staffordshire
ARROWSMITH, William Son M 16 1885 Saggar House Boy
Stoke
Staffordshire
ARROWSMITH, Frederick Son M 13 1888 Nat Telephone Boy
Stoke
Staffordshire
ARROWSMITH, Edith Daughter F 11 1890
Stoke
Staffordshire
ARROWSMITH, Martha Daughter F 9 1892
Stoke
Staffordshire
ARROWSMITH, Annie Daughter F 7 1894
Stoke
Staffordshire
ARROWSMITH, John Son M 4 1897
Stoke
Staffordshire
ARROWSMITH, Marinda Daughter F 0 (11 MOS) 1901
Stoke
Staffordshire
LEIGH, Hannah Boarder Widow F 78 1823
Longton
Staffordshire


Ah here they are. Martha is a widow.



1911 census transcription details for: 33 Birks St Stoke - on - Trent
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN16565 RG78PN1023 RD361 SD2 ED17 SN243

Reg. District: Stoke upon Trent Sub District: Stoke upon Trent
Parish: Stoke upon Trent Enum. District: 17
Address: 33 Birks St Stoke - on - Trent
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
ARROWSMITH, Martha Ellen Head Widow F 50 1861 Staffordshire Stoke
ARROWSMITH, William Thomas Son Single M 26 1885 Potters Placer Chemist at Mistone? Ltd Staffordshire Stoke
ARROWSMITH, Noel Son M 6 1905 School Staffordshire Stoke
ARROWSMITH, Martha Ellen Daughter Single F 19 1892 Potters Warehouse at Empire Porcelain Staffordshire Stoke
ARROWSMITH, Martha Ellen Daughter Single F 19 1892 Potters Warehouse at Bradary Fenton Pottery Staffordshire Stoke


This last Martha Ellen should read Annie Arrowsmith aged 17, Potters warehouse at Bradary Fenton Pottery, born in Stoke

Choccy

Choccy Report 8 Jun 2010 11:17


1911 - looks like Frederick has died -


ARROWSMITH, Martha Ellen Head Widow F 50 1861 Staffordshire Stoke VIEW
ARROWSMITH, William Thomas Son Single M 26 1885 Potters Placer Chemist Staffordshire Stoke VIEW
ARROWSMITH, Noel Son M 6 1905 School Staffordshire Stoke VIEW
ARROWSMITH, Martha Ellen Daughter Single F 19 1892 Potters Warehouse Staffordshire Stoke VIEW
ARROWSMITH, Martha Ellen Daughter Single F 19 1892 Potters Warehouse Staffordshire Stoke VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
16565 Reference:
RG14PN16565 RG78PN1023 RD361 SD2 ED17 SN243

Registration District:
Stoke upon Trent Sub District:
Stoke upon Trent Enumeration District:
17 Parish:
Stoke upon Trent

Address:
33 Birks St Stoke - on - Trent County:
Staffordshire


NOTE THIS IS MIS-TRANSCRIBED.

There are not two Martha Ellens, only one !

There is also an Annie Arrowsmith aged 17 born Potters Warehouse.




Choccy

Choccy Report 8 Jun 2010 11:21




Deaths Mar 1911 (>99%)
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ARROWSMITH Frederick 51 Stoke T. 6b 150



Amanda

Amanda Report 8 Jun 2010 11:23

thanxs for that is there any records of if the kids married at all

Julie

Julie Report 8 Jun 2010 11:25

You can look for that yourself on this site, which is Free

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Amanda

Amanda Report 8 Jun 2010 11:43

hiya everybody l have a change and l need a lot of help with locating my lees and leight family, l have looked every where and dont get any where the lees family keep marriage there cousion
l am trying to locate david lees/leese the info l have on him birth 21-april-1832, is christing is 5-aug-1832 Primitive Methodist, Tunstall By Stoke Upon Trent, Stafford, England, l dont know if he as bro and sisiter and l know is mom is mary nixon but l dont have her birth year or where she was born his dad is named john lees again l dont have birth year or a place of is birth

alviegal

alviegal Report 8 Jun 2010 11:52

Right, I've found John now I think.


1901 census transcription details for: 81, Heaton Terrace, Wolstanton
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 2585 Folio: 47 Page: 29

Reg. District: Wolstanton Sub District: Wolstanton
Parish: Wolstanton Enum. District: 2
Ecclesiastical District: St Margarets City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 81, Heaton Terrace, Wolstanton
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
LEESE, John H Head Married M 41 1860 Foreman Brass Moulder
Tunstall
Staffordshire
LEESE, Sarah Wife Married F 37 1864
Newcastle
Staffordshire
LEESE, Elsie Daughter Single F 11 1890
Wolstanton
Staffordshire
LEESE, Hilda Daughter Single F 7 1894
Wolstanton
Staffordshire
BAXTER, Stephanie Servant Single F 22 1879 Servant Domestic
Goldenhill




1911 census transcription details for: 99 Heaton Terrace Porthill Staffordshire
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN16440 RG78PN1019 RD360 SD1 ED2 SN325

Reg. District: Wolstanton Sub District: Wolstanton
Parish: Wolstanton Enum. District: 2
Address: 99 Heaton Terrace Porthill Staffordshire
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
LEESE, John Henry Head Married M 51 1860 Foreman Bass Moulder Tunstall Staffs
LEESE, Stephannie Lorenza Wife Married
6 years F 32 1879 Goldenhill Staffs
LEESE, Elsie Daughter Single F 21 1890 Dress Maker Wolstanton Staffs
LEESE, Hilda Daughter Single F 17 1894 Millener Wolstanton Staffs
LEESE, John Henry Son M 5 1906 Wolstanton Staffs
Staffordshire



Marriages Sep 1904 (>99%)
Banford John William Wolstanton 6b 189 Scan available - click to view
>>Baxter Stephanie Lorenza Wolstanton 6b 189 Scan available - click to view
>>Leese John Henry Wolstanton 6b 189 Scan available - click to view
Shaw Elizabeth Wolstanton 6b 189



and possible death for Sarah.


Deaths Jun 1901 (>99%)

Leese Sarah 37 Wolstanton 6b 54

Amanda

Amanda Report 8 Jun 2010 11:56

does that mean john lees was married twise then to stephanie

alviegal

alviegal Report 8 Jun 2010 11:58

So David is John's (1860) father? I see David Lees 21, married Sarah Lees 19, 7 Feb 1854 at Tunstall. His father was John Lees and her father was Enoch Lees. (From familysearch)


1861 census transcription details for: King Street, Tunstall
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09 Piece: 1925 Folio: 144 Page: 37

Reg. District: Wolstanton Sub District: 2 Tunstall
Parish: Tunstall Enum. District: 16
Ecclesiastical District: Christchurch Tunstall City/Municipal Borough:
Address: King Street, Tunstall
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
LEESE, David Head Married M 29 1832 Crate Maker
Tunstall
Staffordshire
LEESE, Sarah Wife Married F 26 1835
Tunstall
Staffordshire
LEESE, Mary Daughter F 6 1855
Tunstall
Staffordshire
LEESE, Hannah Daughter F 3 1858
Tunstall
Staffordshire
LEESE, John Henry Son M 1 1860
Tunstall
Staffordshire
HOLLAND, Henry Boarder Unmarried M 18 1843 Potter
Tunstall
Staffordshire




1871 census transcription details for: Chapel Lane, Wolstanton
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10 Piece: 2838 Folio: 7 Page: 5

Reg. District: Wolstanton Sub District: Wolstanton
Parish: Wolstanton Enum. District: 1
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Chapel Lane, Wolstanton
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
LEES, Davis Head cratemaker M 38 1833 Staffordshire
LEES, Sarah Wife potter F 36 1835 Staffordshire
LEES, Mary Daughter potter F 16 1855 Staffordshire
LEES, Annie Daughter potter F 13 1858 Staffordshire
LEES, John Son cratemaker M 11 1860 Staffordshire
LEES, Enoch Son M 2 1869 Staffordshire
LEES, Herbert Son M 0 1871 Staffordshire



England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about David Leese
Name: David Leese
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Year of Registration: 1872
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 40
District: Wolstanton
County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 53



1881 census transcription details for: New St, Wolstanton
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11 Piece: 2704 Folio: 39 Page: 72

Reg. District: Wolstanton Sub District: Wolstanton
Parish: Wolstanton Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: New St, Wolstanton
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
LEESE, Sarah Head Widow F 46 1835 Widow
Tunstall
Staffordshire
LEESE, John H Son Single M 21 1860 Brass Moulder
Tunstall
Staffordshire
LEESE, Annie Daughter Single F 23 1858 Potter
Tunstall
Staffordshire
LEESE, Enoch Son Single M 13 1868 Scholar
Tunstall
Staffordshire
LEESE, Herbert Son Single M 11 1870 Scholar
Wolstanton
Staffordshire
LEESE, Arthur Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar
Wolstanton
Staffordshire
LEESE, Arthur H Visitor Single M 1 1880 Infant
Burslem
Staffordshire



1891 census transcription details for: Orchard Terrace, Wolstanton
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 2153 Folio: 28 Page: 49

Reg. District: Wolstanton Sub District: Wolstanton
Parish: Wolstanton Enum. District: 1
Ecclesiastical District: St Margarets City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Orchard Terrace, Wolstanton
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
LEESE, Sarah Head Widow F 56 1835
Tunstall
Staffordshire
LEESE, Enoch Son Single M 22 1869 Potters Presser
Tunstall
Staffordshire
LEESE, Herbert Son Single M 20 1871 Potters Turner
Wolstanton
Staffordshire
LEESE, Arthur Son Single M 17 1874 Potters Turner
Wolstanton
Staffordshire
GOODHEAD, Lilly Granddaughter F 13 1878
Wolstanton
Staffordshire
SLATER, Thomas Son In Law Married M 29 1862 Plate Layer
Ashbourne
Derbyshire
SLATER, Annie Daughter Married F 32 1859 Potters Cup Maker
Tunstall
Staffordshire
SLATER, Arthur T Grandson M 5 1886 Scholar
Wolstanton
Staffordshire
BARLOW, Martha Servant Single F 18 1873 General Servant Domestic
Black Bull
Staffordshire


Amanda

Amanda Report 8 Jun 2010 12:03

hiya david dad is named john, l have fount the marriage for john lees and mary nixon it took place on 21-july-1829 in saint james church audley staffordshire

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 8 Jun 2010 14:23

Amanda, are you sure you are looking for the correct John Leese because if I remember correctly from your previous threads you are descended from Cicely Leese born 1904 and she isn't with the Leese family posted in 1911.

I don't have a subscription for 1911 but I have found this family on a free search possibly all the same household.

HOUSEHOLD LEESE CICELY F 1905 6 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire
OUSEHOLD LEESE ALICE F 1903 8 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire
HOUSEHOLD LEESE EMMA F 1895 16 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire
HOUSEHOLD LEESE FREDERICK M 1908 3 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire
HOUSEHOLD LEESE GEORGE M 1901 10 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire
HOUSEHOLD LEESE JOHN M 1873 38 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire
HOUSEHOLD LEESE JOHN M 1907 4 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire
HOUSEHOLD LEESE LILLIAN F 1898 13 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire
HOUSEHOLD LEESE SARAH ELIZABETH F 1873 38 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire
1

If this is correct then John and Sarah are a lot younger than you have for them.

Christine

Amanda

Amanda Report 8 Jun 2010 14:30

l am just going off info l have off my mom tell me yh ciceliya is my grandmother

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 8 Jun 2010 14:44

Do you have Cicely's birth cert?

Christine

alviegal

alviegal Report 8 Jun 2010 16:08

Christine here is the 1911 for Cicely. does that mean we've been looking for the wrong family? These ones are from Longton not Tunstall.


1911 census transcription details for: 11 Bright St Longton Stoke on Trent
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN16604 RG78PN1025 RD361 SD4 ED17 SN347

Reg. District: Stoke upon Trent Sub District: Longton
Parish: Longton Enum. District: 17
Address: 11 Bright St Longton Stoke on Trent
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
LEESE, John Head Married M 38 1873 Potter Handler Longton Staffordshire
LEESE, Sarah Elizabeth Wife Married
18 years F 38 1873 Throwers Take Off Longton Staffs
LEESE, Emma Daughter Single F 16 1895 Potters Lathe Turner Longton Staffs
LEESE, Lillian Daughter F 13 1898 Longton Staffs
LEESE, George Son M 10 1901 School Longton Staffs
LEESE, Alice Daughter F 8 1903 School Longton Staffs
LEESE, Cicely Daughter F 6 1905 School Longton Staffs
LEESE, John Son M 4 1907 School Longton Staffs
LEESE, Frederick Son M 3 1908 Longton Staffs



1901 census transcription details for: 23, Back Lovatt Street, Lonton, Longton
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 2615 Folio: 95 Page: 15

Reg. District: Stoke upon Trent Sub District: Longton
Parish: Lonton Enum. District: 11
Ecclesiastical District: Longton St James City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 23, Back Lovatt Street, Lonton, Longton
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
LEESE, John Head Married M 28 1873 Potters Handler
Longton
Staffordshire
LEESE, Sarah E Wife Married F 28 1873
Longton
Staffordshire
LEESE, Emma Daughter F 6 1895
Longton
Staffordshire
LEESE, Lilian Daughter F 3 1898
Longton
Staffordshire
LEESE, George Son M 0 (3 MOS) 1901
Longton
Staffordshire
EVANS, Edward Father-In-Law Widower M 52 1849 Coal Miner (Hewer)
Longton
Staffordshire
EVANS, Henry Brother-In-Law Single M 22 1879 Coal Miner
Longton
Staffordshire
EVANS, George Brother-In-Law Single M 11 1890
Longton
Staffordshire



Marriages Jun 1892 (>99%)
BRIDGWOOD Eliza Stoke T. 6b 318 Scan available - click to view
>>Evans Sarah Elizabeth Stoke T. 6b 318 Scan available - click to view
FAIRBANK Joseph Stoke T. 6b 318 Scan available - click to view
Fradley James Henry Stoke T. 6b 318 Scan available - click to view
>>Leese John Stoke T 6b 318 Scan available - click to view


Cicely's birth certificate is what you really need to get.

Births Sep 1904 (>99%)
Leese Cicely Stoke T. 6b 303

alviegal

alviegal Report 8 Jun 2010 16:16

But this one is from Tunstall and is staying with the Nixons.


1891 census transcription details for: 5, Wesley Street, Wolstanton, Tunstall
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 2158 Folio: 88 Page: 7

Reg. District: Wolstanton Sub District: Unstall
Parish: Wolstanton Enum. District: 15
Ecclesiastical District: St Marys City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 5, Wesley Street, Wolstanton, Tunstall
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
NIXON, Joseph Head Married M 59 1832 Crate Maker
Tunstall
Staffordshire
NIXON, Jane Wife Married F 55 1836
Tunstall
Staffordshire
NIXON, Henry Son Single M 21 1870 Crate Maker
Tunstall
Staffordshire
NIXON, Annie Daughter Single F 19 1872 Potters Paintress
Tunstall
Staffordshire
LEESE, John Lodger Single M 19 1872 Crate Maker
Tunstall
Staffordshire


Maybe his family?


1911 census transcription details for: 89 Liverpool Road Burslem Stoke - on - Trent
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN16484 RG78PN1021 RD360 SD3 ED2 SN246

Reg. District: Wolstanton Sub District: Burslem
Parish: Burslem Enum. District: 2
Address: 89 Liverpool Road Burslem Stoke - on - Trent
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
LEESE, John Head Married M 38 1873 Labourer Tiliries Staffs Tunstall
LEESE, Sarah Ann Wife Married
18 years F 39 1872 Staffs Tunstall
LEESE, Ethel Daughter Single F 17 1894 Glost Warehouse Staffs Tunstall
LEESE, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 15 1896 Printer's Cutter Staffs Tunstall
LEESE, Isabella Daughter Single F 12 1899 School Staffs Tunstall
LEESE, John Son Single M 7 1904 Staffs Tunstall



I'm getting totally confused now with all the Johns and Sarahs!!

Amanda

Amanda Report 8 Jun 2010 16:40

thanxs for all the info sorry not on much my little boy is very sick kidney problems l only get on when he is asleep that why l am asken for so much help, lees family is so confussing all the same name and all marring cousions it mad

Amanda

Amanda Report 8 Jun 2010 16:55

l have a mystery for everybody this women l am looken for l cant find l have looked everywhere l have even been to the archives and l still cant find a birth for her her name is Sarah simmons she married Enock Lees in 1831 she was l think born in the tunstall stoke on trent

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 8 Jun 2010 17:26

Thanks for posting the full details for 1911.

Amanda, you need to start with Cicely's birth cert.

I asked if you had this but you haven't answered the question.

It appears you are tracing the wrong John Leese so there's no point anyone looking for any other information at the moment.

Christine

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 8 Jun 2010 19:44

Message from Amanda.

hi thanxs for the info l do have her birth certificate some where just l am not home much as my son is sick l got that info of john and sarah wedding certificate
From Amanda

If you have her birth cert then it will give Sarah's maiden name.

You need to check.

Christine