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Hello there,

I have looked and looked for the census of 1901 and 1911 for Frederick Blott and his wife Alice, but no such luck! Can anyone help?


Frederick Blott was born c. 1857 in Peterborough, Northamptonshire, and his wife Alice was born c. 1867 in Mill Hill, Middlesex. Both were alive after 1911, so why can't find them in either census.

In 1891 they are running a lodging house in the Market Square in Middlesbrough.

I also can't find their daughter Mary Ann in 1901 or 1911; she was born in 1889 in Middlesbrough, Yorkshire although she married in 1910 to a man named James Herman!

After this, I am at a loss as to finding them.

Peter

Looks like they have to be in Middlesbro:

Births Dec 1912
Herman James Blott Middlesbro 9d 1043

Rose

Can anyon look at BURLAN in Middlesborough? James & Mary ann

Might be dau & her husband mistranscribed

Minnie
It is definitely James Burlan and he is a singleman.

Jo x

??


WEST, Thomas Head Married
28 years M 45 1866 Ironstone Miner Kent Seilly Surrex VIEW
WEST, Marie Wife Married F 45 1866 Yorkshire Stokesley VIEW
WEST, John James Son Single M 21 1890 Horse Driver Ironstone Mine Yorkshire Potto VIEW
WEST, Mark Son Single M 16 1895 Horse Driver Ironstone Mine Durham Spiningmoor VIEW
BLOTT, Fred Boarder Married M 50 1861 Miner Ironstone Northampton VIEW
ROOKES, John Boarder Widower M 63 1848 Miner Ironstone Yorkshire Danby VIEW
WALKER, Joseph Boarder Single M 38 1873 Miner Ironstone Yorkshire Sheffield VIEW

Registration District:
Guisborough Sub District:
Guisborough Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Guisborough

Address:
59 Northgate Guisborough County:
Yorkshire (North riding)

TURNER, George Head Married
7 years M 37 1874 Dock Contractors Labourer Berkshire Reading VIEW
TURNER, Emily Wife Married
7 years F 26 1885 Yorkshire Hull VIEW
TURNER, George Son Single M 7 1904 Northumberland Cottsleys VIEW
TURNER, Sidney Son Single M 1 1910 Yorkshire Masham VIEW
>>HERMAN, James Boarder Married M 24 1887 Crane Driver Northumberland Byker VIEW
PAYNE, Henry Boarder Single M 35 1876 Dock Contractors Labourer Kent Sheerness VIEW
COWEN, John Boarder Married M 45 1866 Dock Contractors Labourer Durham Bernard Castle VIEW

Registration District:
Tynemouth Sub District:
Tynemouth Enumeration District:
29 Parish:
Tynemouth

Address:
20 Coronation St North Shields County:
Northumberland

EDIT: Don't think this is James as he says he has been married for 3 years

1911 -

COWARD, Alice Wife Married
24 years F 43 1868 No Occapation Middlesbro Yorks VIEW
COWARD, William Son M 15 1896 No Occapation Gateshead Durham VIEW
COWARD, Helen Daughter F 9 1902 School Gateshead Durham VIEW
COWARD, Evelyn Daughter F 5 1906 School Middlesbrough Yorks VIEW
COWARD, Annie Daughter F 2 1909 Middlesbrough Yorks VIEW
***HERMAN Visitor Married (Mrs Herman on original)
2 years F 23 1888 Middlesbrough VIEW
***HERMAN, Mary Daughter F 2 1909 Middlesbrough VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
29268 Reference:
RG14PN29268 RG78PN1696 RD535 SD3 ED5 SN186

Registration District:
Middlesbrough Sub District:
Middlesbrough West Enumeration District:
5 Parish:
Middlesbrough

Address:
1 St James Place Middlesbro County:
Yorkshire (North riding)

The post-1911 Herman/Blott offspring were born -with one exception - in Middlesbrough district

Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
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Herman James Blott Middlesbro 9d 1043

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Marriages Sep 1910 (>99%)
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Blott Mary A Middlesbro 9d 1118
Herman James Middlesbro 9d 1118

Is this - perhaps - the birth of the child listed as Herman in 1911?

Births Jun 1909 (>99%)
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BLOTT Mary Ann Middlesbro' 9d 600

No birth for Mary Herman in 1908/9

The mother (on 1911 image) states that she has been married for two years, but that's probably due to the age of her child..................

This entry on 1911?

1911 census transcription details for: 1 St James Place Middlesbro
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN29268 RG78PN1696 RD535 SD3 ED5 SN186

Reg. District: Middlesbrough Sub District: Middlesbrough West
Parish: Middlesbrough Enum. District: 5
Address: 1 St James Place Middlesbro
County: Yorkshire (North riding)
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
COWARD, Alice Wife Married
24 years F 43 1868 No Occapation Middlesbro Yorks
COWARD, William Son M 15 1896 No Occapation Gateshead Durham
COWARD, Helen Daughter F 9 1902 School Gateshead Durham
COWARD, Evelyn Daughter F 5 1906 School Middlesbrough Yorks
COWARD, Annie Daughter F 2 1909 Middlesbrough Yorks
>>>>>>>HERMAN Visitor Married
2 years F 23 1888 Middlesbrough
>>>>>>>HERMAN, Mary Daughter F 2 1909 Middlesbrough


unable to read the christian name but could be just Mrs.

Also could not find a birth for a Mary Herman born 1909 but did find this entry:


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Mary Ann Blott
Name: Mary Ann Blott
Year of Registration: 1909
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Middlesbrough (1875-1968)
County: Yorkshire - North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 600


wondering if there is a connection?


Sorry Choccy, so engrossed in searching, I did not see that you had got there first going down the same path.

Anyone else notice that the head of the house was an Alice born the same time as Alice Smitheringale/Blott? Wonder if she had separated from Fred. Blott.

Can't see to find the Cowards in 1901.

Rose

Found them:

1901 England Census
about Alice Poward
Name: Alice Poward
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: Middlesbrough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Hilda
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 148
Household Members: Name Age
John Poward 36
Alice Poward 34
Mary A Poward 12
John W Poward 4
Charles Legge 39

Rose


Rose

And there are Smitheringales next door. Has to be the correct family.

Looks like Alice and Fred. had separated if Peter says he was still alive in 1911.

Rose

Well, this appears to be Fred's death:-

Deaths Jun 1920
BLOTT Frederick 63 Middlesbro' 9d 684

possibly Alice?

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Alice Coward
Name: Alice Coward
Death Registration Month/Year: 1955
Age at death (estimated): 87
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume: 1b
Page: 580

Birth of Alice's daughter Evelyn?


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Eveline Coward
Name: Eveline Coward
Year of Registration: 1906
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Middlesbrough (1875-1968)
County: Yorkshire - North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 555

another?


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Annie Coward
Name: Annie Coward
Year of Registration: 1909
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Middlesbrough (1875-1968)
County: Yorkshire - North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 528

Oh my this is amazing; you have all solved a mass problem I had had for years. Alice Smitherinbgale's father John died and was buried with people named Coward. I could nver find a connection, and I assumed that once hewas buried the grave had been resold or something etc. But this makes sense! Wow, thank you ... I can't thank you enough! You have really solved a riddle here for me!!!!!

In 1901 who are the Smitheringale's next door?! Also, does it look as though Alice Smitheringale and John Coward where 'common-law' spouses (so not married). I am so thankful for this!!!!

Re 1901 census:-

15 Thomas St Middlesbro( same address as Alice Coward but different households)

John George Smitheringale age 32, Slag Lighterman on Barges born Frieston Lincolnshire
Mary J Smitheringale age 32, wife, born Stockton Durham
Fred Smitheringale age 8, son born Middlesbro
William age 6 son born Middlesbro
Elizabeth age 5 daughter born Middlesbro
Harriett age 3 daughter born Middlesbro
Amelia age 1 daughter born Middlesbro


Have not been able to locate a marriage for John coward to Alice Blott/Smitheringale.

Wow, this definitley makes sense! John George Smitheringale was my gg granddad!

I'll keep looking for a marriage ... funny though as there is also an Alice Blott dying in 1955 aged 87 years ... is the same person as Alice Coward, and if so why is she registered under two different names?!

Alice Blott age 87
Middlesbro
3rd qtr 1955
vol 1b page 580


Just checked , and the reference details are exactly the same which would indicate that she never married John Coward but was indeed a commom law wife.that is why her death is registered under both surnames.