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If anyone can help with any information on the Day family other then what I already have would be very helpful as I have hit a brick wall and can not find anymore on this family other then Thomas Day,the rest of the family is not so easy to trace,so if u can help please do.
Regards
Karlina

Thankyou to everyone who has helped me.
But im really trying to find info on Thomas Days parents James Day and Elizabeth Kershaw I can not find anything on them. Trying to locate the ship they came out to Australia on it would of been in 1883 or before then. Any suggestions on how I could find them,I have been trying for sometime now and always come up blank.

Hi I just posted some info about the court case but didn't realise you already had it on page 2! That's why there are deleted posts. Anyway here's a bit more, you probably have seen it...

Caroline pleaded self defence and was granted bail of 400 pounds. Her statement to police when she gave herself up was:

"My husband used to get funny fits, yesterday morning he told me to pack him some food, and I packed his food, I told him I was going to town, and he started to jaw. I told him I wanted a horse, and he took my horse away to a paddock then I took one of his draught horses, put it in a sulky, and went to rescue my daughter, Ethel, who was surrounded by the flood waters. I brought my daughter home and then went into the market and packed some tomatoes for town. Then the deceased's uncle came, and I asked him to get my horse. He got my horse, and I jumped on to his back and galloped to where my sulky was. My husband came galloping up behind me I looked at him, and knew he was in one or those funny fits. I tried to race away from him, and he raced after me as hard as he could. I struck a tree with my shoulder and fell off. He raced over the top of me. He stopped his horse and jumped off. He picked up a great big stick, and I said, 'For the love of God, don't hammer me.' He said, 'I will.' I said, 'Whatever I have done wrong tell me. I have done nothing wrong. Don t hammer me.' With that he threw the stick down and rode away towards the house.

"I struggled to my feet, caught my horse, and began to lead it home. I was then about a quarter of a mile from home. I was too sick to mount it, and I had only gone a little way when he came galloping back. He tied his horse up and again picked up a stick, saying, 'I came back on purpose to murder you!' I said, 'For the love of my children don't murder me.' He said nothing, but raised the stick above my head. I thought it was certain death for me. I drew the revolve, and fired at him. After I fired he dropped the stick, turned around a little way, and then fell. I caught my horse, struggled on to his back, came home, and told them that he was dead, and that one of us had to die, and I couldn't help but fight for life. I could not, either."

William Carrol, a rabbit trapper, who was camped within a few hundred yards of where the tragedy took place, stated that when he heard the report of the revolver he and Robert Buckman, an uncle of the deceased, ran to where Buckman was lying. They met Mrs. Buckman coming along the road on horseback. Robert Buckman said to her, "What have you done?" She answered. "I shot him. It was him or me for it." She pointed out the spot where he was lying. They found him lying across a log and quantity of blood was coming from his mouth. They lifted him up, and he said. "Oh. God!" and no more. He lived for about 10 minutes after this. They could find no stick representing the one Mrs. Buckman alleged he had attacked her with.

Mary Gertrude Buckman, daughter of the deceased, stated that her mother and father had lived a most miserable life together. Mrs. Buckman had to do ploughing, harrowing, fencing, clearing, lifting bags of wheat into the cart, and the killing and dressing of cattle. The witness also stated that while she and her mother lived in a bark hut Buckman dwelt in a comfortable hut.

(The Advertiser, Friday 4 February 1910)

Could anyone please suggest how I might find any info on THOMAS DAYS parents JAMES DAY and ElIZABETH KERSHAW?
I have been trying but havent been able to find anything on them,I would really like to find the ship they came out on to Australia but am not sure when they came out i know it was either 1883 or before.

Hi Amy
I have PM you

hi my name is amy day and athol is my grandfather. he has passed away last year he was married to gwendoline hayden and they had 4 chldren i think thats all i know of anyway. they are kerrie, jimmy, peter and sally. I am peters child and am wonting now now info about dads side so i can make a faimly tree so if you have any info i would love to have a look...
thanks

Thankyou to everyone who has help me with information so far on this family.
Caroline Buckman (Troth) married my greatgrandfather Thomas Day a year after she killed her husband. Im trying to find any info also on the daughter Thomas and caroline had together her name was Dorothy Day brn 27th April 1912 she went onto marry Henry Williams on October 15th 1927 in coonabararan NSW. I dont have any other information on her other then that and would really like to find anything on her or her family.
Karlina

Karlina, I have PMd you.

Karlina,

THE NARRABRI TRAGEDY

WOMAN SHOOTS HER HUSBAND

ACQUITTED OF MURDER

SHOCKING STORY OF BRUTALITY
Sydney, April 28

A shocking story of continued brutality was told at the Armidale Circuit Court today by Carolene Augusta Buckman, charged with the murder of her husband, James Joseph Buckman, near Narrabri, on January 20.

The accused gave evidence on her own behalf, and said that two or three days after her marriage 21 years ago the deceased began ill-treating her. Three months after the wedding he beat her with a riding whip and a green stick. She left him for a time, but returned, and after her return the deceased loaded a gun but she hid the caps. He took funny, wild, mad fits at the change of the moon. On the morning of the tragedy she told him that she was going to Narrabri to get food. He said nothing. She took the horse and sulky into the scrub and left them with her little daughter. She then went back to the house to get her own horse, and saw the deceased coming raving made. She started to race to the rabbiters' camp when the limb of a sapling knocked her off her horse. The deceased's horse galloped over her. The deceased jumped off and picked up a big stick. She said, "Oh, Jim, what are you going to do" For the love of God, don't hammer me. If I have done anything wrong tell me." He threw the stick down and got on his horse and went towards the house. She got up and was going home. When the deceased came back he jumped off his horse, and said, "I've come back to murder you." She said, "Oh, Jim, for the love of the children, don't murder me." He lifted a big stick to strike her. When she could see death before her she drew a revolver with her left hand and fired. Her husband dropped the stick, wheeled round went a little way, and fell down.


The jury, after 10 minutes' consultation, returned a verdict of not guilty on the ground of justifiable homicide and the accused was discharged.

this was found at

http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/26255714

also at http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5262678

you will find information on the court case the previous day..

I'm not researching the Days but am interested in the Buckmans.

William James Buckman's WW1 records show his next of kin as Caroline Augusta Day on 3 Nov 1916. Therefore the mother of William James Buckman must have married a Day.

I have also just found out that Caroline Augusta Buckman was tried for the shooting of her husband James Joseph Buckman at Narrabri. I am trying to find out the outcome of the courtcase and will post it here when I do.

Peter

IS anyone searching for the same family lines? or from these family lines?

Karlina

is anyone searching for the same family lines or know anything on this family?

karlina

Hi Anastasia,
On the marriage certificate I have for Thomas Day and Caroline Buckman (Troth) is says they were married on the 21st December 1910 at 22 Grafton St Woollahra NSW Australia. Thomas is listed as a farmer and Caroline listed as Domestic Duties and usual place of residence was Narrabri NSW Australia.
Thomas was a Bachelor when he married Caroline abd Caroline was a widow after her first husband James Buckman died from being shot,they did have 9 children together.
The marriage certificate states Thomas Day's parents as James Day and Elizabeth Kershaw and Carolines parents as William Troth and Mary Huckel both families were farmers.
The wedding was done in the presence of William Harris an Millie Buckman.
Thomas Days parents as far as I know and anyone in my family knew are James Day and Elizabeth Kershaw and its whats on both of Thomas marriage certificates,however I do Know at the O from O"Day was dropped when james came out to Australia but its not known when they came out.
Athol James Day (he had 2 children Jimmy and Kerry but thats all i know about them) is my mums auncle and he also had a sister named Hilda May Day who was my grandmother,
Hope this is of some more help.
Regards
Karlina

I just had a look at the Electrol Roll

1930 - Thomas James Day - White St, Coonabarabran - labourer
1936 - Thomas James Day - as above with wife Mary
1943 - Thomas James Day - as above with wife Mary
1949 - Thomas James Day - as above with wife Mary and son Athol James Day - motor Mechanic
1954 - Thomas James Day - as above with wife Mary & son Athol.

might be worth contacting the Coona historic Society

Coonabarabran DPS Local and Family History Group Inc - Research Centre
Information: The Research Centre is open Monday , Tuesday, Thursday and Friday.
Phone: (02) 6842 5000
Address:

John Street
Coonabarabran NSW

there is no email address but you could contact them by phone or post.

Possibly Marys Death
12350/1969 DAY MARY RICHARD CHARLES SARAH JANE COONABARABRAN

Possibly Marys Birth
11087/1894 ANDREWS MARY E RICHARD SARAH J COOTAMUNDRA NSW

Possibly marriage for Athol James DAY
19335/1955 DAY ATHOL JAMES HAYDEN GWENDOLINE MARGARET WARREN NSW

Marriage of Thomas to Caroline

3597/1911 DAY THOMAS BUCKMAN CAROLINE A WOOLLAHRA

Marriage of Thomas to Mary

11948/1925 DAY THOMAS J ANDREWS MARY TAMWORTH

Marriage of Caroline to James Buckman

3894/1890 BUCKMAN JAMES J TROTH CAROLINE A E GRENFELL

might be worth getting a copy of this marriage and comparing it to the one with Thomas it might surprise you there may be some differences in age and it could possibly give you more information on Carolines birth.

It looks like there may be two Caroline & James Buckman families but I could not find any other James Buckman to a Caroline

there is a Caroline A E and James J Buckman and Caroline A and James J Buckman listed under births there are 9 children listed for these two they could possibly be all the same family??


15265/1891 BUCKMAN MARY G JAMES J CAROLINE A GRENFELL

15608/1892 BUCKMAN EMILY E JAMES J CAROLINE A E GRENFELL
14982/1894 BUCKMAN HENRY J JAMES J CAROLINE A E GRENFELL
12788/1896 BUCKMAN WILLIAM J JAMES J CAROLINE A E GRENFELL
21589/1898 BUCKMAN MARGARET M JAMES J CAROLINE A E GRENFELL
22349/1900 BUCKMAN ELIZABETH M JAMES J CAROLINE A E GRENFELL
32039/1901 BUCKMAN DAVID J JAMES J CAROLINE A E GRENFELL

4035/1904 BUCKMAN ALFRED V JAMES J CAROLINE A LEICHHARDT

5851/1906 BUCKMAN BEATRICE JAMES J CAROLINE A NARRABRI

There are two deaths recorder for the above children but it doesn't make it any clearer

7345/1958 BUCKMAN HENRY JOSEPH P JAMES CAROLINE GUNNEDAH

18031/1920 BUCKMAN BEATRICE JAMES J CAROLINE A NARRABRI


Death for James J Buckman
2374/1910 BUCKMAN JAMES J JAMES MARY NARRABRI


This is possibly Carolines Birth

13020/1875 TROTH UNNAMED WILLIAM MARY INVERELL

and possibly her Death
3029/1922 DAY CAROLINE A WILLIAM MARY NARRABRI

If you have a copy of Thomas & Carolines marrriage it should give you her fathers name, hopefully it is William.

Death of Thomas Day
25277/1955 DAY THOMAS JAMES JAMES RICHARD ELIZABETH COONABARABRAN

How sure are you of his parents being James J Day/O'Day/O'Dea and Elizabeth Kershaw if you don't have a birth certificate for him - all births registered in NSW are on file. The information on his death is only what the informant knew not necessarily correct.


There is these two births
11623/1883 DAY THOMAS WILLIAM ELIZABETH HAY (no father listed)

3933/1888 DAY THOMAS JAMES MARGARET BALMAIN

I cant find any Thomas James Day b1880-1890 in NSW

Could you possibly post details from the marriage certificate you have.

tree on ancestry owned by sharon

http://trees.ancestry.com.au/tree/1059602/person/-1979869903

Hi Victoria,
Sorry the date I entred was wrong she was brn either 1872 or in 1875 in Grenfell NSW Australia she was 8 yrs older then her husband Thomas Day according to there marriage certificate which means she is either lying about her age to be brn in 1872 or was actually brn in 1875 to be 8 yrs older. Sorry I was looking at the wrong info and put up her aunts.


Caroline Troth married James Buckman but am unsure if there marriage date is correct.

Thomas Day and Caroline Troth did marry in Woollahra NSW in 1910 and I do have there marriage certificate for them.

Im trying to find any information past Thomas Day and any on Thomas Days and Crolines children I know they had 2 one named Dorothy and am unsure on the second name if anyone can please help i'd be very greatful.
Regards
Karlina

according to tree on ancestry
Caroline Augusta Elizabeth Troth was born 1872 Grenfall
she married James Buckmand and later
Thomas James Day b. 1883 Queanbeyan

The Caroline Troth born 1855 Gundagai married Joseph poole and was the aunt of the younger Caroline

HI Karlina

Just trying to get my head around some fo the dates

you say that Caroline Troth was born in 1853, that makes her 35 year older than her husband Thomas?????

Caroline Troth married James Buckman 1890 Grenfall

Thomas Day married Caroline Buckman 1911 Woollarhra

have you got the marriage certificates to back up your findings?

Copy of answer to PM:

Hello Karlina

I am afraid I don't have any contact details for them - it's my brother who has had all the contact, and he has just left for a holiday in Austria. I will certainly ask him when he comes back.

In the meantime, I think he made contact with them through Ancestry, so if you're a member (I'm not any more), you may be able to find them on there. The family member of ours that he would have contacted them about was Walter Rowe Hill, so you could try looking him up.

I will copy this answer to your PM onto the thread. In case you're not a member of Ancestry, some kind soul may look him up for you. Let me know if you do make contact, otherwise I will be in touch on my brother's return.

Chris