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Trying to find out about husbands maternal grandmother.Him and his sister was told she died at or after the birth of their mother.We now know that she went to America after 1912 and died in America in 1929 and buried in Milton Cemetary. We can't find out why she let her mother-in-law bring up her daughter .She was married and her married name was Thayre although on the marriage certificate the spelling was Thayer.The certificate states her own father was dead. Not very good at this.ANY HELP PLEASE.

Do you have a christian name, date and place of birth for her please
Liz

Sorry,but I don't get much of a chance to get on computer. Her christian name was Alice but we have no date or place of birth. Her marriage certificate for April 1908 says she was 25years old. Tricia.

Marriage?

Marriages Jun 1908 (>99%)
FULLER Grace Horsham 2b 637 Scan available - click to view
>>LEE Alice Horsham 2b 637 Scan available - click to view
>>Thayre Harry Horsham 2b 637 Scan available - click to view
Wright Thomas Jacob Horsham 2b 637

1911??
CHANTLER, Annie Servant Single F 35 1876 Parlourmaid Domestic Charlwood VIEW
>>>THAYRE, Alice Servant Single F 25 1886 Housemaid Domestic Brighton VIEW
JONES, Fanny Servant Single F 21 1890 Housemaid Domestic Ludlow VIEW
PETERS, Annie Servant Single F 15 1896 Housemaid Domestic Brighton VIEW
BROWN, Constance Servant Single F 19 1892 Kitchenmaid Domestic Guildford VIEW
HENDRICKS, Adela Servant Single F 28 1883 Personal Maid Domestic Meiderich VIEW
WEAVER, Amy Louisa Servant Single F 30 1881 Cook Domestic Rockhampton VIEW
STEPHENS, Michael Head Married M 42 1869 Ink Manufacturer Finchley N VIEW
STEPHENS, Louise Wife Married
2 years F 22 1889 New York U S A VIEW
STEPHENS, Ellen Aunt Single F 57 1854 Finchley N VIEW
WALSH, Martha Aunt Widow F 67 1844 Lambeth London VIEW
WALSH, Eleanor Cousin Single F 32 1879 Kobe Japan VIEW
SIMMONDS, Frederick Visitor Single M 65 1846 Private Means Finchley N VIEW
WALSH, George Cecil Visitor Single M 34 1877 Electrical Engineer Kobe Japan VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3166 Reference:
RG14PN3166 RG78PN117 RD35 SD2 ED10 SN23

Registration District:
Hambledon Sub District:
Cranleigh Enumeration District:
10 Parish:
Ewhurst

Address:
Cover Wood Ewhurst Surrey County:
Surrey

What was her father's name on the Marriage certificate?

Hello Alviegal, Thank you for information but for some reason I am unable to click to view.I have tried but nothing happens. Not sure if it is my fault or not. Tricia.

Hello Jonesy, Thank you for information but for some reason or another I am unable to view. I have tried clicking but it will not let me view. Tricia.

Yes, it was George and he was deceased. Tricia.

Patricia,

What is it that you are clicking on when nothing happens?

Hello Jonesey, I am trying to click where it said click to view. Fairly new to this so probably doing it wrong. Tricia.

Hi Tricia,
I got the marriage from http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl and Jonesy's came from findmypast.

You actually need to go on these sites to use the click to view. In freebmd's case, it is only the printed pages with names and register numbers. In findmypast's case, it will show you the original image but you need credits to view it.

Has George got an occupation noted, even though he is deceased?

Liz

Hi Liz, Many thanks for that, I did wonder. The occupation on the marriage certificate is carpenter. Tricia.

I'm having trouble finding a family that fits what you know. You mention a mother in law with the daughter.
Do you have names for them and how do you know Alice emigrated after 1912?

Liz

Have found a couple of possible matches emigrating in l9ll - they had a maid with them. If you would like a copy, please let me know and I will post it on this thread.
Liz

Hi again, we have a post card book that belonged to my husbands mother that contained some cards from her mother(Alice) who obviously from the content loved her very much, but they are only up to 1912. Possibly there were some after that date but not that we found.Most were post marked Sutton in Surrey.In one she talks about very busy in the business. Her mother-in-law (my husbands mothers grandmother) was called Kate Thayre nee Charlwood. Many Thanks for help so far. Tricia.

Hello again, I have realised that I don't think I have said that Alice's maiden name was Lee. Some of the feed back has shown her maiden name but sorry for being remiss. A copy of the possible matches of emigration in 1911 will be appreciated please. I will unearth the post cards just to check that there are definately cards dated 1912 and post marked this country. Many thanks, Tricia.

This is the only one I can find going after the l9ll census, where she states she is single??? Liz
Name: Miss Alice THAYER
Date of departure: 20 June 1911
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: Boston, USA
Passenger destination: Boston, USA

Date of Birth:
Age:
Marital status: Single
Sex: Female
Occupation:
Passenger recorded on: Page 16 of 20





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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Mrs THAYER Page 16 of 20 View transcript
Miss Julia THAYER Page 16 of 20 View transcript
Miss Mary A THAYER Page 16 of 20 View transcript



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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
CYMRIC
106898
F B Howarth
White Star
Boston, USA
16589
13096
499

I have found Kate and William on most census. They were at Worth, where my husband's paternal family came from, and in l9ll lived around the corner from his maternal grandparents, his mother and her brothers. Will ask some of his relatives if they know the name. Would you like copies of the census - Liz

So here is Kate's marriage.

Marriages Dec 1876 (>99%)
Barnett Elizabeth E. Grinstead 2b 263 Scan available - click to view
Charlwood Kate E. Grinstead 2b 263 Scan available - click to view
Smith Robert E Grinstead 2b 263 Scan available - click to view
Thayke William E Grinstead 2b 263
Thayre William E.Grinstead 2b 263


And here she is. I was looking at Topsy earlier. What a wonderful name!!


1911 census transcription details for: 30 West Street Crawley
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN5263 RG78PN233 RD81 SD2 ED17 SN246

Reg. District: Horsham Sub District: North Horsham
Parish: Ifield Enum. District: 17
Address: 30 West Street Crawley
County: Sussex
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
THAYRE, William Head Married M 55 1856 Stableman Home Wisborough Green Sussex
THAYRE, Kate Wife Married
34 years F 54 1857 Worth Sussex
THAYRE, Percy Son Single M 17 1894 Butchers Assistant Ifield Sussex
THAYRE, Topsy Granddaughter F 2 1909 Broadbridge Heath Sussex


Could this be her?

Births Dec 1908 (>99%)
Thayer Beatrice Frances W Horsham 2b 272


and Harry with his family.


1901 census transcription details for: New Town, Ifield, Crawley
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 951 Folio: 9 Page: 9

Reg. District: Horsham Sub District: North Horsham
Parish: Ifield Enum. District: 19
Ecclesiastical District: St Peters West Crawley City/Municipal Borough:
Address: New Town, Ifield, Crawley
County: Sussex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
THAYRE, William Head Married M 45 1856 Railway Signalman
Wisboro Green
Sussex
THAYRE, Kate Wife Married F 44 1857
Worth
Sussex
THAYRE, Harry Son Single M 18 1883 Bricklayers Labourer
Worth
Sussex
THAYRE, Sydney Son Single M 16 1885 Clerk Corn Merchants
Worth
Sussex
THAYRE, William Son Single M 14 1887 Errand Boy Greengrocers
Ifield
Sussex
THAYRE, Bert Son Single M 12 1889 Errand Boy Greengrocers
Ifield
Sussex
THAYRE, Percy F Son Single M 7 1894 Scholar
Ifield
Sussex



Sorry, must go to bed now. Will look back tomorrow.


Liz

Hello Liz, Thank you for your hard work. I looked through post card book last night and some of the post cards were not franked so can only think they were sent in envelope or taken to her.The latest franked ones were two in January 1912 posted in Sutton. The post cards were full of love for her daughter and Alice also seemed to be on good terms with her mother-in-law (Kate). We found out that my Husbands mother was called Topsy after we cleared her house.Too late to ask her about it.On the post cards it was not until she was maybe threeish. No one new her real name was Beatrice either.Only knew her as Frances Winifred. Tricia.