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1881 Census

Name: Henry Griggs
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Frances
Gender: Male
Where born: Soho, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Newnham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address: Newnham Street
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Baker

Registration district: Faversham
Sub-registration district: Teynham

Henry Griggs 46
Frances Griggs 50 b.ca 1831, Hern Hill, Kent
Frances Emma Griggs 21 b.ca 1860, Bermondsey
Henry Thos. Griggs 20 b.ca 1861, Bermondsey, Baker
Sarah Jane Griggs 14 b.ca 1867, Bermondsey
Rhoda Annie Griggs 10 b.ca 1871, Newnham, Kent
Frederick Stephen Griggs 8 b.ca 1873, Newnham
Eliza Sebinah Griggs 6 b.ca 1875, Newnham
William Marsh 26 b.ca 1855, Margate, kent, Visitor, Butcher



sylvia

I'm not sure whether these are yours after all!

The parents' names are the same, but you do not show these children's names!



London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Clara Ann Griggs
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 19 Apr 1863
Father's Name: Henry Griggs
Mother's Name: Frances Griggs
Parish: Christ Church, Bermondsey
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex

Address:- 30 Martin Street

Actual date of birth (written in margin):- March 20th 1863

Father's occupation:- Mariner



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London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Henry John Griggs
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 26 Sep 1875
Father's Name: Henry Griggs
Mother's Name: Frances Griggs
Parish: St Luke, West Norwood
Borough: Lambeth
County: Middlesex


Father's occupation Carman


Baptised same date and Place:- Susan Griggs

No birth dates given for them




or they may of course have died young:-


for example

Deaths Jun 1864 (>99%)

GRIGGS Clara Ann Bermondsey 1d 43


London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980

Name: Clara Ann Griggs
Record Type: Burial
Event Date: 20 Apr 1864
Age: 12 Months
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Death Date: 20 Apr 1864
Parish: Nunhead Cemetery, Linden Grove
Borough: Southwark
County: Surrey

Address:- 21 Martin Street, Bermondsey



I can't find deaths for Susan or Henry John though





sylvia

There are these baptism records on the London Baptisms ....... but only 3 of them


The baptisms of the others may not have taken place in London, or in parishes that ahve not been transcribed, or they may not have been baptised!


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Henry Thomas Griggs
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 10 Mar 1861
Father's Name: Henry Griggs
Mother's Name: Frances Griggs
Parish: Christ Church, Rotherhithe
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex

Father's occupaton:- Steward

Address:- Bermondsey



I'll have to finish later ........ dinner time!!!




sylvia

In 1871, the name has been mistranscribed, but a change has been made to the index on ancestry ... the transcriber forgot to change the surname between two households. It is very clear on the actual census image!


1871 Census

Name: Henry Milgate
[Henry Griggs]
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Frances
Gender: Male
Where born: Sotro, Middlesex, England <<<<<<<<<< shoudl be SOHO
Civil parish: Newnham
Ecclesiastical parish: Canterbury
Town: Newnham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Faversham
Sub-registration district: Teynham

Henry Milgate 37 Baker
Frances Milgate 40 b. Herne Hill
Frances Emma Milgate 12
Henry Thomas Milgate 10
Sarah Jane Milgate 4
Rhoda Annie Milgate 9 months b. Newnham



sylvia

so this looks like the family in 1861


The image is very poor, and the writing difficult to read!


1861 Census

Name: Henry Griggs
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Frcis J
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: St James

Henry Griggs 26 Seaman ???
Frcis J Grigg 29 b.ca 1832, Herse Hile, Kent <<<< probably should be Frances, and Herse Hill
Frances J E Grigg 2 b.ca 1859, Bermondsey <<< probably just Frances E
Henry S Grigg 3 Mo b.ca 1861, Bermondsey

Address:- West Street



sylvia

Henry Griggs b17.7.1834. d - 10.8.1907 Torbanlea Australia wife- Frances nee Gilham b 3.9.1830. died 16.8.1907 Torbanlea Australia, married - 22.6.1858 St Johns Ch Margate Isle OF Hante, Eng
children Frances Emma b 14.3.1860 Bermondsery, Henry Thomas b 28.12.1860 Bermondsery,Sarah Jane b31.8.1866 Bermondsery, Rhoda Anne 2.6.1872, Newham Frederic Stephen b 25.6.1872 Newham, Eliza 24.6.1874 Newham.

Parents of Henry who married Frances Gilham, Henry Griggs b 17.7.1834, married Ann Hewitt ?. I think the father of Henry Griggs b 1834 might be a Stephen Griggs but I can't find it ?

Frances Gilham parents - Joseph Gilham b abt 1801 Kent, died June 1873 Faversham. married Ann Adie b abt 1875, died June 1875 Faversham. hope this helps and clears up my mistakes, sorry, I do not know who thanks Kathy

dob's etc would help too
children's name etc

have you any idea at all which part of England they came from?



Why was Frances' surname Gilham if her parents were Adie??? Had she been married before?


Have you any idea when Henry and Frances married??





I can find no record of marriages, or of them on the England and Wales censuses






sylvia

Trying to find family of Henry & Frances Griggs, who came to Torbanlea Qld, 1889, with family, trying to find out about family in England, Frances was Frances Gilham, parents were Joseph & Ann Adie, can anyone help please, thanks Kathy